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Steering shaft does not fit with headers. WTF!!!

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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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Default Steering shaft does not fit with headers. WTF!!!

I have a set of headman hustler headers for a lt1 93-97 f-body and I am having trouble getting them to except the steering shaft. need advice on who to call or what to buy. Thanks
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 12:21 AM
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you mean you cant get them passed the steering shaft? because when i was putting some pacesetters i had to disconnect it and put the header and then connect it back.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 12:25 AM
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I heard headman didn't fit well with stock cars, something about the steering shaft, and hvac box on the passenger side.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 12:58 AM
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No I took it out but it hits the primary going back in.

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you mean you cant get them passed the steering shaft? because when i was putting some pacesetters i had to disconnect it and put the header and then connect it back.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:02 AM
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I have modified the air box and it is going to work. But I also read on another thread that there would be no worries on the steering shaft with these headers and a stock rack. I think that was said by Tony Shepard. fast93z.com. I see them on his car in the pics but no pics of the steering shaft. Just not sure yet. Thanks

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I heard headman didn't fit well with stock cars,
something about the steering shaft, and hvac box on the passenger side.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 02:02 AM
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But I also read on another thread that there would be no worries on the steering shaft with these headers and a stock rack. I think that was said by Tony Shepard. fast93z.com. I see them on his car in the pics but no pics of the steering shaft. Just not sure yet. Thanks
That thread you're talking about was a convo myself and tony were having about clearance but Tony and I are both running madman manual racks and i have a bmr k-mbr and he has a PA racing I think.... I was looking at my headers tonight with the engine not in the car and I think it's gonna fit but only cause the madman steering shaft is super narrow with none of those circular things going down it.... i'm not sure if those will fit with the stock steering shaft..... maybe you can buy just the shaft from madman????? i'm sure there's a way to mod it to fit a stock power rack with a few minor mods.... not 100% sure but it's a start....
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 06:38 AM
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The Hedmans were designed to be used with a manual rack. To make them work with the factory rack you will have to replace the steering shaft. I built one for my old Firebird using parts from Borgeson. Even with that done you will have to rework (flatten) the number one tube a little.

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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 06:52 AM
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Should of went with Hookers. They fit perfectly with no mods.
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yeah the hookers would have worked fine for most apps..... when you are running a manual rack usually you're making enough power to require stepped race headers like the hedmans....... hence fitment problems for those with power steering....
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Originally Posted by OutlawZ
yeah the hookers would have worked fine for most apps..... when you are running a manual rack usually you're making enough power to require stepped race headers like the hedmans....... hence fitment problems for those with power steering....
On my Camaro Stocker the Hedman steps were actually slower than the Hookers!
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on my old pacesetter mids the shaft hit the primary just a little. so i took it back out and beat the **** out of it and then it fit good.
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I had to have my #1 tube modded to work with power steering, a LS1 steering shaft will also help.


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Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY
I had to have my #1 tube modded to work with power steering, a LS1 steering shaft will also help.


David
Do you mean modded as in beating the hell out of it or having the tube reworked? Do you have any pics? WHat is different about the steering shafts? Thanks
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 07:58 AM
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Tube was re-worked, LS1 shaft does not have a "rag" joint.



No pics


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The initial reaction of these Headers last year was that they will fit with stock steering shaft and rack. After a few of us installed the headers....we realized the #1 primary will have to be tweaked or the stock steering shaft modified. I found it easier to just convert to manual rack. It can be done with stock steering shaft but just takes a little work to make it fit.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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my pacesetters worked fine, but the plastic boot that goes around it wont fit. Do i need that plastic boot? Just use a fine adjustment tool
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