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Old 05-01-2007, 01:00 PM
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Perfect, just asking so those that might believe or not believe this will actually know. and they can confirm this as well with a call.
No harm intended.
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Um....

Because I emaild Ron last year and asked him about it.

Thats why.

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Old 05-01-2007, 01:29 PM
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No Harm taken Shon.

And FWIW...most of ALL the head porting companies use something on the flowbench.

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Do they just use this in place of the clay that other companies use to smooth the port entry??

There are so many variables that go with flowing heads it really is silly to shop flow numbers IMO.

Ai doesn't use a pipe, AFR does ect ect, there is just too many different ways to do it.
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Well if I was to do it all over again I would use Port Pros.
That's just my opinion.
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Does JOE O make cams anymore?

Im looking for somone to grind me one
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Asking what heads to go with online is kinda pointless, everyone is going to be biased towards what they are running.
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You can't go wrong with Port Pros, Elliotts Portworks or the other non sponsor mentioned. If you have attention to detail on the rest of the set up (CAI, TB size, ported intake, big headers, good exhaust and GOOD tuning), you will see good results from any of them.

If it all goes in a car with a good 60 ft, you will get good track times and if the car has some weight reduction, it will be even faster.

There are ALOT of ways to lose HP and end up with a slow car and the difference in any of the heads mentioned will NOT be the deciding factor.

Call each of them and see what parts are used at what price and how quick the turnaround time is and then decide who you are most comfortable with.
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After going over the email from Ai about using 'wood' on the flowbench, I realized it was not wood and was 'clay' instead.

Its most likely the same process of molding to the clay to the intake runner, as stated before with the wood.

And Lloyd,

Nice of you to Join us as a Sponsor on LS1Tech

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Originally Posted by NightTrain66
You can't go wrong with Port Pros, Elliotts Portworks or the other non sponsor mentioned. If you have attention to detail on the rest of the set up (CAI, TB size, ported intake, big headers, good exhaust and GOOD tuning), you will see good results from any of them.

If it all goes in a car with a good 60 ft, you will get good track times and if the car has some weight reduction, it will be even faster.

There are ALOT of ways to lose HP and end up with a slow car and the difference in any of the heads mentioned will NOT be the deciding factor.

Call each of them and see what parts are used at what price and how quick the turnaround time is and then decide who you are most comfortable with.
Amen Lloyd, too many people get hung up on this, we are just lucky enough to have some very very good head porter assioated with this and many other sites.

Really you will be happy with any one you choose. I have yet to hear a bad story from any of these guys.
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Originally Posted by Shon Herron
the one that produces the results that you are looking for.
is it dyno numbers?
is it track numbers?
looking at more at track times. im sure port pro and le heads will give me over 400 hp which i am looking to make but im mostly focused on track time. would like to see low or mid 11s all motor
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While were on the subject of heads.........Who is can be trusted with custom made cams to our setups?
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Originally Posted by 97Lt1TA
looking at more at track times. im sure port pro and le heads will give me over 400 hp which i am looking to make but im mostly focused on track time. would like to see low or mid 11s all motor

track times def are somthing people should focus on rather than power..




Look at how fast 5.0 guys can run, and they barly make over 300whp
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Originally Posted by slick1851
track times def are somthing people should focus on rather than power..




Look at how fast 5.0 guys can run, and they barly make over 300whp
That isn't due to an outstanding hp/tq curve produced by well matched heads/cam setups. That is because they have probably been gutted and weigh 2500 lbs.
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Originally Posted by 97Lt1TA
looking at more at track times. im sure port pro and le heads will give me over 400 hp which i am looking to make but im mostly focused on track time. would like to see low or mid 11s all motor
Track numbers talk.

See my LE #'s in the sig. I still have quite a bit of room for improvement too.

MPH through a 4000 stall and a Ford 9".
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Originally Posted by Javier97Z28
Track numbers talk.

See my LE #'s in the sig. I still have quite a bit of room for improvement too.

MPH through a 4000 stall and a Ford 9".
Damn nice numbers ...For my vote, If there free porting you got my vote j/k.

would like to get my old *** 190 AFR ported .
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Originally Posted by slick1851
While were on the subject of heads.........Who is can be trusted with custom made cams to our setups?
all the head porters grind cams to match the heads.
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Originally Posted by LT1MAN
all the head porters grind cams to match the heads.
Correction, they do not physically grind them. They supply specs to a cam manufacturer like Comp who grinds them according to the spec
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Just my .02 but I believe that the reason why I am putting down such good numbers is due to my Port Pros Heads. Cause its probably not from my baby hotcam lol. I always support port pros, great guys and great work.
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[QUOTE=NightTrain66]You can't go wrong with Port Pros, Elliotts Portworks or the other non sponsor mentioned. QUOTE]

Lol. That "other non sponsor" was YOU for so long. Now you wont even mention their name. Irony.

But I agree with everyone else, all good porters. Variances, but all good.
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[QUOTE=Tireburnin]
Originally Posted by NightTrain66
You can't go wrong with Port Pros, Elliotts Portworks or the other non sponsor mentioned. QUOTE]

Lol. That "other non sponsor" was YOU for so long. Now you wont even mention their name. Irony.

But I agree with everyone else, all good porters. Variances, but all good.


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