Yes i want to see this coil setup you really need to get that writeup onboard so we can copy

 

Heres a quick draft. I will add more when I get it all organized. I have a ton of info stashed all over the place.

http://brian-esser.com/?page_id=24

 

does anyone know anything bout LT1 edits or anything ?

 

LT1 edits? You mean the computer tuning?

Thanks for the mini-write up LT10 When do you plan on a full install How-To for the LT1?

 

the LTCC conversion works amazing also, and is a bit easier.

 

im extremely tired so correct me if im wrong, but in the write up dont you say the optical sensor still needs to be in good working order? awesome looking setup by the way!

 

If you are running the stock PCM you still need to keep the opti. However you can seal it off with say the delteq cover and forget about it. It will no longer have anything to do with the ignition, it will only supply hi and low res to the PCM to fire the injectors. If you are running a aftermarket ECM you can totally ditch the opti as I have.

 

Nice LTCC setup, the EDIS8 will run 8 LS1 coils as well with some slight modifications.

 

I have yet to see an f-body owner complain that the stock PCM couldn't provide enough spark advance. That's because it's not really a problem. The guys who're running radical enough setups that the stock PCM would be a restriction in this area are usually running aftermarket PCM's anyway.

I'm not really sure what you mean by "better" spark, since what you're using are still stock GM coil packs. If by "better," you're referring to the multiple fire capability, then something to keep in mind is that by ditching the stock optical wheel and replacing it with a 36-1 trigger wheel, you've essentially watered down your ignition resolution to 10X less than what it was before. When you replace a system that can pinpoint crank position to the degree with one that's just "accurate," multiple spark fire then becomes a needed crutch in high rpm situations.

I applaud your spirit of ingenuity, but better than Delteq? Doubtful.

By the way, I'm glad to see somebody was paying attention:

 

Sorry but aftermarket coil packs without a CD box is a waste and often provides LESS spark than OE coils do. I've yet to see aftermarket coils make a difference without a CD box backing them up. As far as watering down my resolution, that is correct. However it is dead stable to 10,000rpms, show me a opti dependant solution that is, you can't and won't! It may be "watered down" but it is more than sufficient to suit all but all out 700hp drag engines. As for the coil pack mounting idea, I've seen them mounted like that for years.

 

I agree with you 100% there, but the Delteq uses OE coils as well. So you're basically comparing apples to apples.

Both the MSD Pro-Billet and Dynaspark Gen III units' optical sensors are rated to 10,000 rpm.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking your setup at all. Crank-trigger ignitions are usually pretty failsafe. I just feel that the "better than Delteq" statement was a little unfair.

 

Soundandthefury got any more pics of how you mounted your DELTEQ?? I have mine mounted on my Drivers side valvecover and I wanted to mount it to the Firewall above the intake manifold??? Also what Plug wires are you using, I still have the old Delteqs on it from about 2.5 years ago, lol.

 

Unfortunately I don't. I lost alot of my older pics when my computer got hit with a virus. I've currently got my engine out for a rebuild, and I'm fabbing up a custom bracket for the coilpacks to mount to the rear of the intake manifold, and I'll have pics of it later when it's done.

There's a heat shield bracket that's bent at a 90* angle that comes with the Delteq kit. That's what I used to mount it. I drilled four holes at each corner of the side of the bracket that's adjacent to the one that the ignition module mounts, then held it up to the underside of the cowl panel and used a paint marker to mark where the holes would be located. Then I used a 90* drill attachment (royal PITA) on the underside of the cowl to get my holes and just bolted it up. If you try this route please be very careful when mounting the coil assembly to the bracket, as that piece is a little bit flimsy and bends easily.

FYI: I originally intended to try mounting the bracket to the firewall, but I ran into clearance problems. The underside of the cowl actually slants downward as it runs toward the firewall, so the coils were going to have to sit wayyyy low in order to be all the way up against it. The problem was that the coils are tall enough that if they were all the way flush up against the firewall, they were low enough to not fit between it and the rear china wall on the intake. So I had no choice but to mount them further forward and "up and over" the intake china wall.

They're Accel 300+ 8.8's. I've used three sets and haven't had the first problem with any. Really easy to assemble.

 

ill be needing to do this soon enough

 

Interesting thread, but I'm still partial to the Delteq, MSD setup.

 

Hey Mike, long time no speak. How's that idler pulley holding up for ya? Did you ever put it into service?

 

This is the exact setup i want. do you have a link, directions, and/or specs on that setup ?

 

You need this: www.delteq.com

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this: http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku


There are also these: http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku


For my engine rebuild, I decided to upgrade to the MSD Pro-Billet with the billet Delteq replacement cap, sealed up tight as a drum:



You can also make it "rotorless:"



The billet Delteq replacement cap can be found here:

http://paceperformance.com/index.asp...&ProdID=146734

If you decided to go with a set of one of the aftermarket coils (MSD, Accel), all you need from Delteq is the "bare bones" kit and a GM ignition module P/N#1162: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CADIL...spagenameZWD1V

...plus your spark plug wires of choice.

 

Sound of Fury,

I have not put the pulley on the car, but it still shine like a **** I knew you would show a pic of the billet Delteq cover, I finally installed my billet Delteq cover on my Dyna-Tech opti just like yours Did you do the GEN III rotorless upgrade. I just had mine done about 6 months ago.


Oops, just noticed you have the MSD pro billet opti


Next Level,
Sound of fury gave you a good start, but alot of my setup is custom built to look and function within the parameters of my car. You can certainly replicate my setup, but you will need to have some basic fab skills for a few of the items. If you want a complete breakdown of everything I have done on the DELTEQ/MSD, etc. Do a search under my username and look for a couple different post I made on the DELTEQ setup. I have an extensive write-up in one of the posts. There are alot of guys that do some very trick stuff on LT1's if you search out things on LS1tech.

 

thanks for the help guys i appericate it.