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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 08:43 AM
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i want to put 410 gears in my 97 ss camaro but im having trouble figureing out the numbers. i was looking at a richmond rear end but from there im feeling pretty lost.
has anyone put a set of gears in or does anyone know what gears to get?
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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what numbers are you trying to figure out?
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 09:04 AM
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if you have an auto get 373s if u have a 6spd get yhe 410s
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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im on the richmond site
http://www.richmondgear.com/01pdfs/page8.pdf
and im trying to figure out the carrier number.. 3.08 or 3.23.
i know my rear end ios the second of the 2 on that page but its just the specs thats given me some trouble.

and i have a 6 speed so ya i want the 410s
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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if you have a 6-speed now you have 3.42 gears, which means you have the 3 series carrier. therefore you would need 69-0322-1 for the gears, and 83-1044-M install kit
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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not to be a a$$hole, but putting 4.10s in a 10-bolt rear is playing with fire. Go over to the gears and axles section and read up.
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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ok thanks for the info n thanks for the advice
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 01:48 PM
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so it looks like i need a 01 or 02 rear end does anyone know what i need for the swap or whats involved? is it worth it?
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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why do you think you need an '01 or '02 rear?
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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well i need a 12 bolt rear end right? what car can i get one out of to put in mine?
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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'01-'02 didn't come with a 12 bolt. No f-bodies do. check the sponsor on the side bar for someone who has one for sale.
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well i need a 12 bolt rear end right? what car can i get one out of to put in mine?

the level of need for a 12-bolt or 9" is totally dependant on what mods you have done to the car and what your plans are for it. you can run 4.10 gears in a stock 10-bolt no problem. you can also break a stock rearend with a mostly stock car. you're looking at shelling out around $2500 for a complete, ready to bolt in 12-bolt or 9" rearend. if you don't need one, you can do a gear swap in a stock rearend for less than $500
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 07:34 AM
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damn theres the newb in me comin out. ok thanks i still want a 12 bolt though
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damn theres the newb in me comin out. ok thanks i still want a 12 bolt though

Im throwing 4.10's in my 94 this week.. I'll let you know how it turns out..

As far as a 12 bolt or 9" I just saw in the last issue of Super Chevy where i think Moser is selling kits pretty cheap right now

I'll look it up tonight and post back up what it says..

Im going w/ the Summit 4.10's and i bought a Zexel Torsen posi to put in.

I also bought the summit rebuild kit- Came with all Timken bearings so i was pretty happy for $216..
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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i'v had 4.10's in my car for years now. never had any problems.... (knock on wood)
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^^ Ditto, im considering going to a 4.56
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Originally Posted by PunkerPontiac
not to be a a$$hole, but putting 4.10s in a 10-bolt rear is playing with fire. Go over to the gears and axles section and read up.

Hell ive broken 2 10 bolts on stock gears, 1 Rear end on STREET TIRES.

Stupid GM 7.5 10 Bolt
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Well- i got my 4.10's in.. It was quite a chore but is do-able in a weekend. You need to see if you can borrow a dial indicator, and a pinion depth mic.
I got lucky and got to re-use my pinion shim and carrier shims..

However- with putting 4.10's in the 7.5 you have to grind on center pin for the auburn diff, and grind on the machined steel block in the Zexel diff. to get the pin or the block to clear the ring gear teeth when putting it in.. - be sure the center pin or block is out of the carrier when putting on the ring gear.

What is a pain is getting your measurements and getting the crush sleeve to crush. I used a 2x4 to hold the pinion yoke and used a 3/4" head ratched & 1 1/4" socket to crush the sleeve on the pinion.

but over all- its not that bad.. - easier than rebuilding an engine.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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hahaha speakin of weak 10 bolts, ya know its weak when I broke the one on my 87 suburban. driven around trans sliped and when It grabbed squealed the tires, any time I turned the corner it would pop like mad. opend the diff up and out comes all kinds of debris. so ya stock gm 10 bolt not the best. rofl
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