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self alingning vs non-self alingning RR

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Old 08-04-2007, 04:42 PM
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Default self alingning vs non-self alingning RR

When should i get any one of them?whats easier to install & to get the best of it?
Old 08-04-2007, 08:41 PM
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stock are self aligning. SA are good till a certain amount of lift IIRC. after that you'd need NSA rockers. NSA will require hardened pushrods and guideplates.
Old 08-04-2007, 08:59 PM
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Be sure to use GMPP guideplates only. And never use guideplates with SA rockers! Buff, what's the lift cutoff on SA? I would have thought it would have been RPM before lift. However I guess too much lift would push the valvestem beyond the strength of the roller "guide."
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Im not sure what the cutoff is. The way it was explained to me at one point was that the lift was the determining factor when to switch to NSA.
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Well I am sure it's not under .600".
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I found this blurb from comp cams

They come in a self aligning version which fits on the stock head without any additional parts but we recommend non-self aligning rockers for any cam over .550" lift or high output or high RPM engines. Non-self aligning rockers offer increased stability over the self aligning versions and require the installation of guideplates and hardened pushrods
Old 08-04-2007, 09:53 PM
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Hmm hadn't ever seen that before. I am running self aligners but I don't trust them. I have a .555"/.576" cam and have lost two since having this setup. Could be why!!!
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It really all depends if your going to run a wild cam and if so are yo worried about valve train deflection. If its in the hotcam range stick with SA stuff, if its cc306 and upwards id consider NSA's
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Buff,are NSA easy to install or they need special ways to do so?
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Originally Posted by scorpion_z28
Buff,are NSA easy to install or they need special ways to do so?
No different. All you have to do is unscrew your rocker studs to install the guideplates. Then you install the rocker onto the stud as normal.
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just a note with most aftermarket rockers (that come with the polylock) especially NSA rockers to make sure the allen set screw is very tight, or to often check them. I've read quite a few stories about guys with Comp NSA rockers having problems with the set screw loosening up.
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Originally Posted by buffman
just a note with most aftermarket rockers (that come with the polylock) especially NSA rockers to make sure the allen set screw is very tight, or to often check them. I've read quite a few stories about guys with Comp NSA rockers having problems with the set screw loosening up.
Yes. It can happen with the SA too. I personally never had it happen as I always made sure the allen screw was very tight. My buddy's car has the SA Comp Pro Mags and when we were putting the top end back together, we loosened all the allen screws to speed things up while we adjusted the valves (car running). I found that it is very easy for the big hex nuts to back off the stud once the allen screw is loose. Just idling, the big hex nut will be almost completely off in a couple mins.
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So you guys think i should go with NSA pro magnum RR,im looking into getting a high lift cam later on.
Old 08-05-2007, 09:23 PM
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I thinking you are on the right track, if you plan ahead and stick to the plan you can save some dough.

I have steel 1.65 full rollers on mine and I love them. car revs like a champ now. Plus idles better (read rougher) haha
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I have run my SA's up to 6900rpm on a few occasions and had no problems with them or the 918 springs.
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Originally Posted by Matts94Z28
I have run my SA's up to 6900rpm on a few occasions and had no problems with them or the 918 springs.
What brand are your RR?
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I have SA's with over .600 lift and never had a problem
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Originally Posted by scorpion_z28
What brand are your RR?

Comp cams 1.6 roller tip magnums. They are not full rollers but TPIS did some tests and that was the only rocker they did not break. They are awsome in my book!
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Originally Posted by Imnotfast
I have SA's with over .600 lift and never had a problem
What brand are your RR??
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Comp Pro Mag's
In the 8 years of using them only had one ever fail. It was on a boat after 3 years and still not postive if the rocker or the valve failed first.


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