What start y'all use?
08-18-2007, 06:49 PM
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What starter y'all use? Ok what starter do you m6 (t56) guys use on your high compression and big torque cars??? I have broken a baker's dozen.
I've bought a "3hp" high torque stater and it wont fit... So if any of you non-shifting guys want one I got one for cheap...
I've bought a "3hp" high torque stater and it wont fit... So if any of you non-shifting guys want one I got one for cheap...
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08-18-2007, 08:11 PM
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have you tried to shim it? if you are buying rebuilt starters , they have been decked a little to true up the mounts, if needed. if it sounds like its binding up and trying to turn over but its not, it needs to be shimmed. i am in the lower 12's on compression and i use a rebuilt starter without any issues. thats after i broke the head off of the 1st one lol. it uses straight shims that come in packs with all different thickness of shims.
08-18-2007, 08:54 PM
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I've tried shims as well and it hasnt helped. Where did you get your starter from? I'm thinking the ones I have been getting are just rebuilt cheapos after all I am getting them from the zone.
08-18-2007, 09:29 PM
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The stock mini-starter that are ON our cars, are the same as the Mini-Torques. I bet they pull the same tq as those high dollar aftermarket ones. My friend uses these minis on all his Chev projects now, on all engines old and new. It's very apparent they are more powerfull than the old school big *** one. They spin over motors much faster, and that's why they used them on our LT1s because we have quite a bit of compression.
08-18-2007, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Formula350
The stock mini-starter that are ON our cars, are the same as the Mini-Torques. I bet they pull the same tq as those high dollar aftermarket ones. My friend uses these minis on all his Chev projects now, on all engines old and new. It's very apparent they are more powerfull than the old school big *** one. They spin over motors much faster, and that's why they used them on our LT1s because we have quite a bit of compression.
Formula no offense but the starter on the F-car and B-cars is far from mini if you want to use that word.
If you're looking for a starter to handle more compression, look into the LT1 Y-body Starter. You can get them at autozone with a LLT for over $100 cheaper than what GM jacked the price of them up to.
part # 17124
08-18-2007, 11:13 PM
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That's not what mine looks like. Mine is tiny. I worked at an auto parts store and all the starters for F and Y bodies didn't look like that one. They all looked tiny and the only difference was the bolting. Diagonal or straight across. I'll go take a pic of what I'm talking about. I have one int he garage.
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08-18-2007, 11:19 PM
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That is a Y-car starter I posted a picture of. If you have something that size or smaller on your car it's not a stock starter. The starter is smaller than it looks in the picture.
Stock F-car starter last time I checked:
Stock F-car starter last time I checked:
08-18-2007, 11:22 PM
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I think I'll try that starter you have there buffman, its worth a try anyway. Anymore details on how it hooks up vs a typical starter like you have pictured below?
As far as you jason, you might have got the good one out of the bunch. From the 13 that I have got I could def. tell a difference in each ones quality. The one I had on the car that lasted the longest was a much nicer reman vs. all the others I've gone through.
As far as you jason, you might have got the good one out of the bunch. From the 13 that I have got I could def. tell a difference in each ones quality. The one I had on the car that lasted the longest was a much nicer reman vs. all the others I've gone through.
08-18-2007, 11:25 PM
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projekt70chevelle,
In my exhaust video you can hear how easily the starter rolls the motor over. Many many guys buy the vette starter. Like I said, I'd buy an AC DELCO unit any day of the year, but GM charges $225 for one nowadays. And there is no warranty.
Formula, I think at one point the y-car starter might have been superseeded(sp)with perhaps the one they used in the 96 Grand Sport LT4 Vettes. But Im not sure if they got a different starter or not. All I know is that's the current Y-car starter.
In my exhaust video you can hear how easily the starter rolls the motor over. Many many guys buy the vette starter. Like I said, I'd buy an AC DELCO unit any day of the year, but GM charges $225 for one nowadays. And there is no warranty.
Formula, I think at one point the y-car starter might have been superseeded(sp)with perhaps the one they used in the 96 Grand Sport LT4 Vettes. But Im not sure if they got a different starter or not. All I know is that's the current Y-car starter.
08-18-2007, 11:31 PM
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Hey buff that part number is a zone number correct? It comes up as a duralast import starter.
http://www.autozone.com/R,APP69250/v...ductDetail.htm
http://www.autozone.com/R,APP69250/v...ductDetail.htm
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i have the stock one pictured above for sale, i paid like 230 for it, will sell for 100 shipped. only reason i changed it is because of my headers. my motor is only 11:1 though. let me know if you are interested.
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Ah I see. I thought you were implying THAT was the F and B style.
Correct the SECOND pic is what I have, and what we use due to it being actually pretty damned powerfull. I'll now take note of that Y-Body style you posted earlier.
Correct the SECOND pic is what I have, and what we use due to it being actually pretty damned powerfull. I'll now take note of that Y-Body style you posted earlier.
08-19-2007, 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by buffman
That is a Y-car starter I posted a picture of. If you have something that size or smaller on your car it's not a stock starter. The starter is smaller than it looks in the picture.
Stock F-car starter last time I checked:
Stock F-car starter last time I checked:
Buff.
You ever work on an old Chevy? Our Starter IS mini compared to them and GM used to sell them as mini's
I am still using my stock 1995 Z28 starter to start my 12.25 to 1 compression stroker LT1
08-19-2007, 01:45 AM
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Anyone know if the ebay starters are any good?
like this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/94-95...spagenameZWDVW
My starter is beginning to go out and 75 shipped (the one above) sounds a lot better than 230. It looks like the same thing, but I know there are a lot of cheap knockoffs on ebay so I was just interested if anyone has any experience with those.
like this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/94-95...spagenameZWDVW
My starter is beginning to go out and 75 shipped (the one above) sounds a lot better than 230. It looks like the same thing, but I know there are a lot of cheap knockoffs on ebay so I was just interested if anyone has any experience with those.
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Originally Posted by infinitebird
Anyone know if the ebay starters are any good?
like this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/94-95...spagenameZWDVW
My starter is beginning to go out and 75 shipped (the one above) sounds a lot better than 230. It looks like the same thing, but I know there are a lot of cheap knockoffs on ebay so I was just interested if anyone has any experience with those.
like this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/94-95...spagenameZWDVW
My starter is beginning to go out and 75 shipped (the one above) sounds a lot better than 230. It looks like the same thing, but I know there are a lot of cheap knockoffs on ebay so I was just interested if anyone has any experience with those.
