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Old 08-19-2007 | 11:35 AM
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...but you got plenty advice in your previous thread:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...1&page=1&pp=20

Forums are helpful IF you listen to GOOD advice listed in them. For example, folks said several times that you won't necessarily have water in your oil if the gasket is bad. Like I said in your thread, a simple $50 coolant check would have saved you a lot of time and grief.

Now that you think you know what the problem is, do you REALLY know if you have bad head gaskets or are you just guessing again? Again, not to be a jerk, but if you're following unc's advice, I'd get a second opinion. For example, your uncle is WRONG that the engine is absolutely toast if the head gaskets are bad. You can have a good shop replace your head gaskets in a couple of days for less than $1500, and that includes labor, resurfacing and parts. I think that's a lot cheaper than most decent used cars, and if you do it yourself, it's a lot less. Now if you've got a bunch of water in the pan, that's a different problem and the engine is probably beyond hope.

BTW, you AIN'T going to get a good NEW engine for $1000, and I wouldn't recommend getting a used one 'cause you're going to be looking at the same problems.
lol i recommended the coolant check he didnt do it. i even offered him money for when he did it. and i didnt mean new i just meant rebuilt. I wasnt guessing i was just going with what my uncle said it was. The waterpump was replaced, fan motors was replaced , hoses also replaced , the 160 tstat didnt even do anything.
Old 08-19-2007 | 11:44 AM
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lol i recommended the coolant check he didnt do it. i even offered him money for when he did it. and i didnt mean new i just meant rebuilt. I wasnt guessing i was just going with what my uncle said it was. The waterpump was replaced, fan motors was replaced , hoses also replaced , the 160 tstat didnt even do anything.
Yep, that about $200 or more that could have gone to the head gasket replacement.

If you can get a rebuilt engine for around that price, that's a good deal and probably the better way to go, especially if the rest of your car is in good shape. Again, that's cheaper than a used car. But if I were you, I'd take a deep breath and call various shops and ask if they are good with LT1's and get a good opinion on what to do. For some reason, it's hard to get good work done on these engines.
Old 08-19-2007 | 11:53 AM
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cheap guy where would i go to get a coolant check , and he had it working well before when he put that cracked head sealant **** in it , just that the hose busted in the car hence all the white stuff that was on my engine. So if i was to put it in there again would it make the car last a lil longer till i get into it.
Old 08-19-2007 | 01:57 PM
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cheap guy where would i go to get a coolant check , and he had it working well before when he put that cracked head sealant **** in it , just that the hose busted in the car hence all the white stuff that was on my engine. So if i was to put it in there again would it make the car last a lil longer till i get into it.
Almost any good shop can do it, maybe even PepBoys or one of the other chains. The dealer will do it for $80, but that's a little high.

IMO, no, anything you do to put a band aid on it will cause more problems. Like I said, if you don't have milky oil at this point, you can probably just have the head gasket replaced but if you keep pushing it you going to end up screwing up the bottom end = new engine.

C'mon you Texas guys, step up and help this guy out with shop recommendations!
Old 08-19-2007 | 09:46 PM
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dude it just a head gasket, hell port the heads while there off, there's your first mod
Old 08-19-2007 | 10:18 PM
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put that head gasket sealer **** in there?? i wouldnt listen to **** your uncle says anyone who uses a $20-25 bottle of useless **** is a idiot im sorry but i had to say it.. some of the power steering leak things do work to a extent but iv never seen one for oil/head gasket leaks
Old 08-19-2007 | 11:04 PM
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well the oil isnt milky and the car is back at my house.
Old 08-20-2007 | 12:47 AM
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well well well lol the car is back at the house. i drove it tonight no overheating and it stayed below 210 or 200 for that matter cracked head / gasket my *** but im still worried about it tho.
Old 08-20-2007 | 12:50 AM
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Mine drove fine but used water...
Old 08-20-2007 | 01:04 AM
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do you have white smoke out of the tail pipe?
Old 08-20-2007 | 01:05 AM
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couldnt see its dark. i will check in the morning
Old 08-20-2007 | 02:38 AM
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does it overheat when driving down the freeway for 30 miles? can it idle for 20 minutes in your driveway?
Old 08-20-2007 | 09:41 AM
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im going to do the idle test today. and the driving test tonight.
Old 08-20-2007 | 09:46 AM
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i think your uncle tried to jew you. so he could get a perfectly good lt1 car for nothing.
Old 08-20-2007 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by LT1MAN
i think your uncle tried to jew you. so he could get a perfectly good lt1 car for nothing.
Old 08-20-2007 | 10:13 AM
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Any threads started by "That Guy" are the same as a fat girls *******... you want to look, but then again, you don't want to.

Listen,

If you blew a headgasket, your car is going to run much differently then before. Its going to run choppy and its going to run hot.

If a car has a blown headgasket, its going to heat up rather fast, OK?
There should be a noticable difference in your running temps.

Does the car warm up faster then normal?
What is the temp going down the road after its warm?
Is there cloudy, white looking smoke coming from the exhaust?

LT1's have cooling problems in general. Even a good running LT1 is going to run 200+ degrees at stoplights on any given day if youre still on the stock fan settings.
You do know that simply switching your climate **** to A/C will initiate the high-speed fans to come on earlier, to compensate for the extra work the motor does to run the A/C pump.... this is a little trick to keep you engine running cooler, well that or a manaul fan switch.

If you want to sell the car thats fine, people buy and sell Fbodies everyday... thats life.
But don't sell the car because 'you think' something is wrong with it. Be sure.
It could be a headgasket, it could be a thermostat, but make sure so you know what youre dealing with, and so you can get the most out of your car.

A headgasket isn't the end of the world, but Fbodies are expensive to maintain.
If you can't afford to fix a headgasket, then you can't afford to modify and maintain the car.
No offense.

Good luck kid.


___edit___

I just noticed the thread title.
It says "Rip In Peace Trans Am"

RIP = Rest In Peace
So you said, Rest In Peace In Peace Trans-Am

RIP T/A was all you needed.

Last edited by burnzilla; 08-20-2007 at 11:03 AM.
Old 08-20-2007 | 10:16 PM
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make sure you know whats up with the car before you start modding the car and make any thing worse... and if it does come down to a cracked head i have a set that i will GIVE you, you would just have to pay shipping... no joke..
Old 08-20-2007 | 10:20 PM
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Just fix your car and buy a cheap car for your DD.
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lmao @ burnzilla

that's sig material
Old 08-21-2007 | 12:48 AM
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[QUOTE=burnzilla]Any threads started by "That Guy" are the same as a fat girls *******... you want to look, but then again, you don't want to.

you kno u like my threads lol. i dont think anything is wrong with it if anything it runs better than before.



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