Vortech vs Procharger? I Searched and Researched!
10-18-2007, 11:50 PM
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I'm a Vortech fan, put down 501rwhp on 7.2# on an S-trim and now have upgraded to a T-trim at 11.7# with no new #'s yet. Maybe next week. But we're all expecting 600+.
I wanted the SQ SuperQuiet (angle cut) gears, which is really why I picked Vortech in the first place. Plus back then, Procharger had a bad customer service rep. Now it sounds like they are better.
I suspect that after a hard run the Procharger internal oil will be way hotter than the Vortech's engine oil. That's why they have to run special oil, to deal with both pressures and temp. I have no proof of that, but Corky Bell's book also states that an engine oil driven system will be better performing.
I think you mean blower gearcase internals.
Jim
I wanted the SQ SuperQuiet (angle cut) gears, which is really why I picked Vortech in the first place. Plus back then, Procharger had a bad customer service rep. Now it sounds like they are better.
I suspect that after a hard run the Procharger internal oil will be way hotter than the Vortech's engine oil. That's why they have to run special oil, to deal with both pressures and temp. I have no proof of that, but Corky Bell's book also states that an engine oil driven system will be better performing.
I think you mean blower gearcase internals.
Jim
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10-19-2007, 12:11 AM
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don't think you will go wrong with a T-trim or the D1. i recomend them because most likely you will want more power down the road at some point. and you should be able to get a set of pullies that will allow you to run low boost for now. i had the P1SC but it came apart so i upgraded it to a D1SC. there is a fix for the belt slip issue on a D1SC (not sure if the D1 uses the same bracket) though it is kind of expensive or you could run a 12 rib belt and should be fine.
10-19-2007, 07:11 AM
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Procharger makes both Self contained and Oil Fed blowers.
How do you wonder that self contained blower stays cooler? try pouring a few Oz of oil in a blower that spins 60000 rpm, sitting right by the header, after an hour of run time let me know what the oil temp is in that unit compared to a oilfed blower.
10-19-2007, 11:45 AM
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I'm running a Vortech T-Trim at 16 lbs (has been setup for 19 lbs previously). My motor is a 383 with Eagle crank and rods. Puts out 550 rwhp and the previous owner ran 11.2 @ 125. The 19 lb setup put close to 600 rwhp. No problems driving on the street or sitting bumper to bumper in 110 degree heat.
10-19-2007, 12:35 PM
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Please do not give people wrong info!
Procharger makes both Self contained and Oil Fed blowers.
How do you wonder that self contained blower stays cooler? try pouring a few Oz of oil in a blower that spins 60000 rpm, sitting right by the header, after an hour of run time let me know what the oil temp is in that unit compared to a oilfed blower.
Procharger makes both Self contained and Oil Fed blowers.
How do you wonder that self contained blower stays cooler? try pouring a few Oz of oil in a blower that spins 60000 rpm, sitting right by the header, after an hour of run time let me know what the oil temp is in that unit compared to a oilfed blower.
10-19-2007, 12:35 PM
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I'm running a Vortech T-Trim at 16 lbs (has been setup for 19 lbs previously). My motor is a 383 with Eagle crank and rods. Puts out 550 rwhp and the previous owner ran 11.2 @ 125. The 19 lb setup put close to 600 rwhp. No problems driving on the street or sitting bumper to bumper in 110 degree heat.
10-19-2007, 04:13 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yg4aUeD1-8
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10-19-2007, 04:27 PM
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I Would Go With A Procharger Their Rep Speaks For Them Selfs And My Bro Has A D1sc And He Had The Old Brackets Which Kept On Ripping His Belts And Last Year When We When To The Super Chevy Show They Were There And They Gave Him The New Style Brackets And Belts For Free... Me Personally I Dont 100% Like Turbos Or Roots Type S.cs Well Just For The Noise They Make If I Ever Force Induct My Stuff It Will Surely Be A Procharger..
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10-19-2007, 07:34 PM
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, procharger makes great power i've been on both sides of the ball and i like my vortech more, now i'm not going to make a **** matching agrument here but that is just how i feel. 
10-19-2007, 09:11 PM
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For example Golen has a GREAT reputation on the b-body boards, reality is at best he does mediocre work.
10-20-2007, 02:51 AM
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The original owner had the stock heads and valvetrain done. Still using the stock intake. The motor is using a custom blower cam, just not quite sure of the specs. No auto here, using a built T-56. The numbers might seem kind of low, but the car would break into the 10's if it weighed a little less. The trap speed is there, but my car was purposely built to be driven on the street. No cages or any weight reduction. It is fast as hell with the current setup and very reliable. There may be more power left with a better tune, but I'm happy with the way it is right now.
10-20-2007, 08:41 AM
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it should go low 9s this year, i've only made a few passes this year on this new blower combo, leaving at idle pig rich braking up and short shifting every gear it still went 9.94@141mph w 1.5060ft, since then i picked up 90rwhp from tunning alone across the board and finally(fingers crossed) figured out my suspension so i can finally leave on some boost.
10-26-2007, 12:10 AM
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Please do not give people wrong info!
Procharger makes both Self contained and Oil Fed blowers.
How do you wonder that self contained blower stays cooler? try pouring a few Oz of oil in a blower that spins 60000 rpm, sitting right by the header, after an hour of run time let me know what the oil temp is in that unit compared to a oilfed blower.
Procharger makes both Self contained and Oil Fed blowers.
How do you wonder that self contained blower stays cooler? try pouring a few Oz of oil in a blower that spins 60000 rpm, sitting right by the header, after an hour of run time let me know what the oil temp is in that unit compared to a oilfed blower.
My car will never see traffic I just wonder which makes more proven power a self contained or oil tapped D-1 or Vortech T-trim? This is good info guys sorry I have been out of town I would like to see this thread keep going I am taking every ones experiences in my choice thanks.
10-26-2007, 12:23 AM
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Totally agree with you I wanna get more experiences with each blower in this thread. I did not want to put this in Forced Induction thread I wanted to keep it LTX thread because it is different plus LTX guys are the hardcore mechs
10-26-2007, 08:24 AM
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Man, I really miss my LT1 sometimes! You guys have some nasty running cars here! I was gonna get a 2004 GT for my next project, but this thread is making me want to start looking at LT1's again!
10-27-2007, 07:01 AM
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So the self contained blowers get hot easily? I do not see any SC blowers used for road racing applications so I am starting to believe what you say is true! My car will never see traffic I just wonder which makes more proven power a self contained or oil tapped D-1 or Vortech T-trim?
This is good info guys sorry I have been out of town I would like to see this thread keep going I am taking every ones experiences in my choice thanks.
My car will never see traffic I just wonder which makes more proven power a self contained or oil tapped D-1 or Vortech T-trim? This is good info guys sorry I have been out of town I would like to see this thread keep going I am taking every ones experiences in my choice thanks.