seadoo

im looking for a cam that will match or beat the torque that the LT1 has from 1500 rpm and up... dont care about peak numbers... all under the curve for me... I want the car to have just a very slight lope... I am thinking either the crane 227- 210/224 or the Lunati Voodoo 60121. the specs on the Voodoo cam is...
* Advertised Duration IN/EX: 270/278
* Duration @ .050 IN/EX: 221/229
* Gross Valve Lift IN/EX: .515"/.530"
* LSA / ICL: 112/106
* Valve Lash IN/EX: Hyd/Hyd
* RPM Range: 1800-5800

will these two cams have more torque than a stock LT1 even at 2500- ???
I would like to shift at 6000 or 6100 tops... so a cam that carries a flat curve till then would be nice.

later on down the line, I will get a set of mildly ported heads and a matched intake... but till then, I would like to have the same or more torque from the cam at 2500-

ABA383

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For off the shelf great street/strip cams look at the LPE 211/219 .533/.560 lift and the 219/219 .560/.560 both on 112 lsa's and use with 1.6 rockers...Smaller durations and higher lifts are what you want for great low/mid range...Both make great power/flat torque to 5800-6000 rpms...

--Alan

TAEnvy

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Damn ABA beat me to it, Id also recommend the LPE but the crane did have the et record for cam only cars for quite a while until the owne stepped upo to a custom grind, last i heard

seadoo

will any of these cams, the LPE, Crane and the Lunati Voodoo have more torque than stock at 2500 rpm range?

ABA383

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I don't have dyno numbers for before and after, but the 211/219 should have a goodly amount of torque at 2500 and it should be a pretty flat curve...I can tell you from 9 years of using the 211/219 in my 383 it was a torque monster and made for tons of stop light and drag strip fun...I'm a huge fan of smaller cams...My current cam in my 383 is a Joe Overton custom from Erson 226/234 with .568" lift...Usable power is what the small cam provides...

--Alan

seadoo

thank you... the main goal for the car is street fun and HPDE's.... thats about it... im out of the drag racing.... been doing it too long.

Puck

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The LPE 219/219 is def up there on the list of my favorite off the shelf stock cube cams. Would be a great choice that can run great times.

1bdbrd

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How good would the LPE219 cam be for boost? I have had that cam sitting in my closet for about 4 years now and was wanting to go kind small on the cam for my turbo motor to help with reliability. I know its a 112LSA but that is not necessarily a bad thing. Also how does that cam sound at idle? After having a cc306 I kinda want something pretty tame...

seadoo

does the LPE 211/219 have a lope? noticable anyway... I dont want top fuel dragster, but want something that gives it a little lope... thanks
I read that the LPE 211 increases dynamic compression ratio, thats what I want. match that with mild heads with some velocity porting and a matched intake and 52mm TB, I say it will be a great fun combo that should run really well.
I guess it is between the LPE 211 and the crane 227. All I need to know is which will make more trq and more hp and where. Anyone have a dyno graph? or anything?

thanks guys

Pampered-Z

If you do a search I responded to another post about the 211/219. ( kinda long and don't want to retype it all ).


211/219 is a great cam for a mild build with outstanding street manners!

ABA383

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In my 383 it had a "hey you got a cam in there?" lope to it...Not too much, but enough to raise a few eyebrows...If it were me I'd go with the 211/219 from LPE over the crane only because I was extremely satisfied with the LPE cam. Drivability was terrific, emissions? no problem, it passed when I lived in MD, with ease. Great throttle response, and I had it matched with a Vig 3600 and 3.42s at the time and it was a very nice ride...High 11s with a few low 12s at 115 and 25 mpg on the hwy...

--Alan

seadoo

you made my mind up. I cant thank you guys enough.
who does heads? Im want some velocity porting down to bring up the bottom end torque that is sometimes raised in RPM's because of porting?

thanks so much

solid95z

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Frank Benoit went 11.4x's with the Crane 210/224 cam & stock heads/stock bottom end.

slick1851

And the weight and sus, and trans and tires etc all come into play

You might want to rember that now

seadoo

it seems the LPE will provide the same power as the crane 227 cam. my only question is this. look at these dyno graphs between the LPE 211 and a Comp cam 218/224.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...19#post4175057
the comp seems to have the same torque, but better hp. my two questions about that is, the LPE is designed for 1.6rr's not 1.5's and both graphs only show from 3500 and up. I would think that the LPE would make better power below that range than the comp cams 218/224. opions?

ABA383

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The LPE 211/219 cam with 1.52 rockers would only give around .500" and .530" lift not the .533 and .560 it was designed to do with 1.6s...

--Alan

seadoo

so that would give the lower hp and trq number compared to the comp cam in the dyno sheet then correct?

ABA383

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It should...LPE did tons of R&D to develop that cam to perform and they used 1.6s to get out of it what they wanted...You probably can't go wrong with either cam choice, I'm just partial to the LPE stuff because of my experience with this cam...

--Alan

seadoo

I will trust your LPE choice. does it make more torque than even the stock cam down low?

ABA383

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I don't have dyno figures, but I'm sure LPE still does...Give them a call 260-724-2552...I deal with Kevin,and he knows about my car...Or just talk to anyone...I'm sure they have the numbers from their old testing...

--Alan