LPE cams and CC503
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LPE cams and CC503 I've done a search and only found one soundclip of the 503, and it wasn't very good...Does anyone have sound clips of the LPE cams, the cc503, and other "baby" cams? I am try to decide on a small cam that will work for stock heads at the moment...eventually i would like to go with a nice streetable forged 383 with a big shot but for now, a small cam only setup and small(100) shot would suffice...I, however, would like a nice choppy idle...I've heard a hotcam idle in a 383, and it just wasn't lopey or ground pounding enough for me...
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My car was pretty lopey with the 503 cam. It all depends on what rpm you get it to idle at. After a tune it was idling at 800 or so, and I didn't like it, so I had my buddy re-flash it to bring it down, big difference. It is an excellent cam for stock heads, and it's lopey enough to draw attention from those in the know.
I don't think there is any point on getting a custom cam yet when you are running lots of stock stuff.
I don't think there is any point on getting a custom cam yet when you are running lots of stock stuff.
Thats really the only way to get a lopey sound is getting a baby cam and backing your idle down being you want to keep stuff stock right now. The lope comes from the duration, and more duration more lope, but youd have to make it breath a lot more, so a ground pounding lopey cam is hard to get without stepping up with a set of good heads. reason being is i believe the more duration you have the higher ur powerband is? so youd have to have good heads to breath..
Both the CC503 and the LPE 211/219 are great off the shelf cams...I ran the LPE in my 383 for years running high 11s/low 12s at 115 while maintaining excellent drivability and a slight chop at idle..My neighbor has a head and cam car with LPE heads and the CC503 and runs mid 12s at 113 with an M6 shifting like a sleeping senior citizen clipping coupons for Depends...His car idles with more of a chop than the LPE cam...Choppy doesn't mean fast, though...There's lots of cams that are crap that sound nice...Its never good to choose a cam based on the sound...
I run a custom small Joe Overton spec'd Erson cam that runs its *** off and my decision to use it had nothing to do with the lope...and everything to do with showing folks my tailights...
--Alan
I run a custom small Joe Overton spec'd Erson cam that runs its *** off and my decision to use it had nothing to do with the lope...and everything to do with showing folks my tailights...
--Alan
Here's my car with the cc503, idle is set at 850, would really lope nice in the 700's like porksoda's car:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW20lFZrE-4
With the cutout open:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fMfVhU-iOg
I'd go with the 503 in terms of what Comp Cams has to offer or an LPE cam like the one ABA383 use to run or the 219/219, all awesome cams for stock heads. The 503 will prob have the choppiest idle for an off the shelf cam that will work best with stock heads but depending on where you wanna spin up to the LPE cams could be better or worse for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW20lFZrE-4
With the cutout open:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fMfVhU-iOg
I'd go with the 503 in terms of what Comp Cams has to offer or an LPE cam like the one ABA383 use to run or the 219/219, all awesome cams for stock heads. The 503 will prob have the choppiest idle for an off the shelf cam that will work best with stock heads but depending on where you wanna spin up to the LPE cams could be better or worse for you.
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i understand sound doesn't mean good, and I will sacrifice sound any day for decent power, the idle in stealth's video sounds damn good, and if funds permit, I will either get my heads ported or go for a nice LE2 or LE3 package...I don't plan on slapping this stuff on now with my current setup...This winter I am going to be getting the trans and suspension set up, and then the summer after my final emissions test, I will begin with LT headers, ORY, EWP, and other boltons before I dig into the internals...I also wanna hit the track and see what I net before the cam, this way I know what I am improving upon...
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Verdad Gallardo For stock heads a cc503 is about the biggest you can go and use to its potential. A set of ported heads with the 503 and you can do 11's all day. But if you ever go 383 then I personally would go with a bigger cam at that time because with the stock heads anything bigger than a 503 the heads don't flow enough for and you have to rev to the moon.
i just turned my 503 cam only car on for the first time a few days ago. it sounded best in the 700 range, but 800 wasnt bad either.
picking a cam based on LSA is silly, after all, you car doesnt lope down the finish line now does it? 6Krpm ***!
picking a cam based on LSA is silly, after all, you car doesnt lope down the finish line now does it? 6Krpm ***!
here is a vid of one of my cars with the 503 and a 150 shot on a plate, its a 383 with 6 inch rods and a 3 inch bullet with a 4 inch turndown;http://videos.streetfire.net/video/b...eb014bd026.htm
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i said nothing about picking a cam solely based on LSA, I just want smething choppy, but as long as it makes power thats fine with me, the503 has a decent idle, and is a nice cam for stock heads...If i have the money to port my heads or get better ones, I will easily buy a bigger cam, solely based on power it makes, not the sound, i am just a fan of the sound..
I haven't done any dyno time or track time yet? I've had the setup in my sig for a year now, I had bolt ons for longer but just did the cam and valvetrain last December. The "local" track is 2 hours away (1/4) at 4200 DA everyday and we have another 1/8 mile track 2 hours away the other direction at 4200 DA also. I prefer 1/4 but every time I went this year it rained, no joke I went like 6 times and it rained every time I made the trip.
As far as dyno time TSP is an hour and a half away but they told me it would be $125 for three runs! Thats pretty high I think especially when people are making posts that three runs cost them $60. Maybe one day when I got nothing else to spend money on I will dyno it but not any time soon. Also no one does LT1 tuning even close to me so I just got a mail order tune from Madz28.
As far as dyno time TSP is an hour and a half away but they told me it would be $125 for three runs! Thats pretty high I think especially when people are making posts that three runs cost them $60. Maybe one day when I got nothing else to spend money on I will dyno it but not any time soon. Also no one does LT1 tuning even close to me so I just got a mail order tune from Madz28.
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fair enough, i don't have full boltons, but this cam is pretty mild, so i am gonna upgrade it now because I can get the parts used really cheap, and just get it dynoed as it sits, and then after emissions, get some LTs, stall, and the res of thee boltons...