LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

lt4 hot cam vs. CC503

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Old 12-23-2007, 08:40 PM
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either one will be a good choice..the hotcam is pretty cheap as a whole kit
Old 12-23-2007, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by StealthFormula
... I would go with the Crane 227 if I was you.
x10. More power than the HOTcam, but more low end and none of the nasty idle characteristics.
Old 12-23-2007, 09:04 PM
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i run a CC305 in my Z and like it, and a LT4 kit in the T/A and there about the same but the LT4 has better street manners, or it could just be it has less done..
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Originally Posted by StealthFormula
You said your car is for street/daily driver use. WIth that said the cc503 is more than you need because smaller cams will have more torque and power down low which is what you are going to want plus a smaller cam will not have cam surge and will just be a little better for daily driving. The hot cam is alright but there are better cams out there. I would go with the Crane 227 if I was you. My second choice would be the LPE 211/219.

Check my thread out it should help you out alot:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-modifications/826333-input-making-stock-headed-cam-guide.html
thanks man! very helpful. I'll keep you guys posted throughout my cam search, and when i finally install
Old 12-23-2007, 09:07 PM
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ok from what i can see you guys recommend:

crane 227
lt4 hc
cc305


for street use ?
Old 12-23-2007, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Pro_built7
ok from what i can see you guys recommend:

crane 227
lt4 hc
cc305


for street use ?
...and the Lingenfelter 211/219 .533/.560" cam...which would be my choice..They also have great matched double valve springs (good to .630" lift) /titanium retainers, and Comp stainless 1.6 roller rocker arms...all of which I'm running with almost 13 years on them...You get a great, proven cam with a wide enough lsa (112) for a shot of spray, thats a great DD cam with terrific idle and good power to 6000 rpm...Thats a very durable cam package...

--Alan
Old 12-23-2007, 09:32 PM
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The 503 is not an extreme cam, it can be made to idle just fine and be basically just as drivable with good tuning.

Lots of people go with the hotcam and then wish for more later on.
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alright thanks ABA, so you would choose that over the crane 227 ?



p.s. what kind of hp increase can i expect with these cams, w/headers ?

20 or so i hope
Old 12-23-2007, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by infinitebird
The 503 is not an extreme cam, it can be made to idle just fine and be basically just as drivable with good tuning.

Lots of people go with the hotcam and then wish for more later on.

Yep I DD 'd my hotcam and loved it but now I wont more since my car is a garage queen. Oh there are better Nitrous kits than that Zex also.
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what n2o kit would you recommend ?
Old 12-23-2007, 11:23 PM
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my car made almost 500hp at the wheels with a hot cam and a 150 shot...im plenty happy with it and don't intend on going bigger
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lol sweet man thats pretty high numbers good job.

this thread makes me laugh because it sets me on the right track, but then again i am still so lost.
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my 503 idles choppy, drives well at 1700rpm in any gear, and has HUGE mid end torque.

good luck
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well from the looks of it, seems like I'll be going cc503, lpe211/219 crane 227,
seems the CC is biggest, BUTT requires Most RPM 64-6500 ehhh... kinda worried about that.. have you 503 guys had problems with this?




the lpe seems to have a couple good votes but is a "sleeper" cam with little lope- i've always loved choppy/lopey cams BUT it has the lowest rpm 6000-6100 and Aba seems to like it

And then the Crane - held cam only record and is known as the torque monster


guys.. I need some of your more experienced input on this, These all seem like great options. I'm 3 way split on my decision. So..........

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Originally Posted by Pro_built7
...And then the Crane - held cam only record and is known as the torque monster...
Frank95Z: 11.40 at 116.6 mph. Cam-only, stock heads, bolt-ons, race weight 3330 lb.

Mike
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I like the cc503 its nice and choppy but not overkill and its got alot of midrange pull to it. I would personally run the 305 or the 503 in a DD. As aba said LPE cams are also very good but a little small in my opinion.
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well guys I think im going to be calling comp cams to figure some stuff out but so far its lookin like the cc503 might be what i need. the only thing is do you guys think it sounds good while idling? or more like a boat ?
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Originally Posted by Pro_built7
well guys I think im going to be calling comp cams to figure some stuff out but so far its lookin like the cc503 might be what i need. the only thing is do you guys think it sounds good while idling? or more like a boat ?
Just advice I would give Lloyde Elliot a call and spend the money on a good head and cam setup from him. Also If I had it over again I would have gotten in contact with 1 of the sponsors on here for Nitrous.
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I will give you my opinion for what it is worth.

The HCK- Great for anyone looking for more performance with stock limitations. It has good driveability and is ENGINEERED for that motor. The components that come with the kit are also engineered for that specific cam. It is the easiest and cheapest cam swap available, or should I say the most complete component matched.

Crane 227- Sweetest little cam out there and it has been around for awhile and proven a performer time and time again. Also a GREAT option for use in dd with the best low end torque ( thats what you drive)

CC503- Very popular cam. It needs major complimenting to achieve its potential and this is most often overlooked. It bridges the realm of stock capabilities and is often installed with mismatched components. On the dyno it outperforms both of the previously mentioned cams, however in real world it lends itself to cam surge and you have to get it revving past 3500 to get it moving. If it has the flow and the valvetrain to accomodate it, this is a mena little cam as well.

LPE- Although there are many grinds available from them, they have one thing in common. They were test driven in the LT1 and then adjusted from there so like the hotcam they were engineered specifically for this motor. Lingenfelter was the sought after name for Corvette enthusiasts for years. They have tremendous drive capabilities, but can be on the pricey side. They also need complimenting valvetrain work to afford the best potential.

This should make everything as clear as mud now
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Originally Posted by Pro_built7
well guys I think im going to be calling comp cams to figure some stuff out but so far its lookin like the cc503 might be what i need. the only thing is do you guys think it sounds good while idling? or more like a boat ?
Sound clips in my sig!


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