lt1camaroman93

iTrader: (7)

I was just curious why the nitrous guys don't get a weight break over the turbo/blower guys? The turbo/blower guys have proven to go consistently faster.

Z8'S

iTrader: (6)

My Turbo car weighs in at over 3500 raceweight. Nitrous car's will be at 3200 There is no way to get a turbo car that light and be legal.

94FBIRD

iTrader: (5)

To the top, because I'm a street car to slow to even be in this discussion. :0

mario89

iTrader: (15)

jay dont you know by now,.. the rules were built around the guys that built their cars already and they give 2 ***** about the rest of the people..

Tony Shepherd

iTrader: (4)

Thats funny that you say that when 7 out of 9 of the organizers who made the classes and rules are nitrous cars.

lt1camaroman93

iTrader: (7)

I'm not trying to start a war, I am just curious what the reasoning was. Just about every class I see gives the nitrous cars a weight break. I am kicking around the idea of slapping a lt1 in my chassis just to come play.

lt1camaroman93

iTrader: (7)

I know the rules are stock suspension, but are you guys mainly concerned that it stays a torque arm car with factory location lca's? I'm rocking a wishbone instead of a panhard and using coil overs.

taner

iTrader: (6)

coil over's on the rear is one of the items we had not allowed, Tony let me know if I am wrong here. I used to run a wishbone for part of a season 3 years ago. my 60's were no better, and I lost ground clearance. I don't see them being an "advantage" in my eyes. but then again i am far from being a susp. tuning master, that is better left to people like Madman

95ttoplt1

iTrader: (3)

I think there needs to be more clarity in the rules for next year. I'm sure there will be some disgruntled racers this year with definitions of certain things, like what is "Stock suspension" and things like that.

I thought the Nitrous vs. Turbo aspect looked biased toward the juice cars as turbo cars are being limited to 81mm but nothing about a limit on the N2O jet size.

I do think CIVIL discussion about the different class will yeild a better event for next year though. Even though this year will be fun as well

TwoFast4Lv

iTrader: (8)

I am telling you man It would not mater if N2O cars got a 500 break my car just won't get light and stay street legal!

I think I need to get some POS like Luigi28 and rip every thing but the seat out of it and call it fast

lt1camaroman93

iTrader: (7)

An 81mm turbo will make plenty more power than you could safely hit an lt1 block with nitrous. You guys have fun at the shootout, maybe next year coil overs will be allowed. I'm still going to drive down to watch this year.

95ttoplt1

iTrader: (3)

I agree, spraying that much on an LT1 block would be asking for it, but they did impose some kinda limitations on the turbo cars. And seeing that 7 out of 9 people that made the rules have nitrous cars, this might effect why the limit is what it is.

Maybe next year they can have a nitrous and seperate FI class.

I still think this is a great thing, and looks well organized so far for a first year event. I mean look at the NHRA, they have been doing this crap for a long time and they turn out a new rule book every year.

I think you should take your car and race, what do you have to lose?? The 50 dollar entry fee?? It'll probably cost 15 bucks to watch, so your only out about 35 bucks to race other LT1 guys. I know I'd pay that any day.

Hell I'd even tow my car 1700 miles one way to do it

lt1camaroman93

iTrader: (7)

I can't take my car and race, it has coil overs out back

taner

iTrader: (6)

lt1camaroman,

any way to bolt in stock shock and coils for the event? i don't mean to be ignorant in asking, please don't be offended.

i see your point about n2o cars having a bit of a weight break. it was overlooked, no purposely though.

95ttoplt1

iTrader: (3)

I think that will be something that will change next year when/if they add a day and can add some more classes.

I kinda thought the stock suspension rule was kinda silly for an Outlaw class. There really isn't class for the real nasty cars, with ladder bars, 4 links ect. You know the real dedicated race cars and the crowd pleasers. And limiting the Corvettes to stock suspension and the F-bodys to the same really limits the vettes more than the F-body's IMO.

9sec93

iTrader: (67)

maybe next year they should have a class with non-stock suspension. or maybe just have a weight penalty or something so more cars could attend.

Tony Shepherd

iTrader: (4)

Problem there is if we add a weight penalty on cars with 4-links....etc most of those types of cars weigh 3000 lbs so they would have to add even more weight to make the event.

I already have some ideas for the next event. Might even make two Outlaw classes if I saw enough interest. One for stock suspension and one for modified suspension. May do it for this event if enough people will show interest. Its just very hard to change things this late.

lt1camaroman93

iTrader: (7)

Nope. The axle housing doesn't have provisions for factory location shocks, springs or panhard. I'll be sure to have something for next years event though.

95ttoplt1

iTrader: (3)

I think maybe we should start a little list of next years possible classes as I would think changing things this late would be counter productive.

I hope I can make it this year, but I will be ther in 09 for sure as long as the Army doesn't find it necessary to deploy me right away again.

I would be happy to work with Tanner in developing a fair set of rules for a pumpgas class as it seems we are both kinda on the same page as far as that goes.

wannabess

Since we are all making suggestions on what to do for next year, can we maybe make the shootout the second week in may? It's shitty b/c I just started grad school and will have finals consistently for the next four years the week after the shootout on the current date. If we could get a date between may 10 and august 4th I will definitely be attending. Dont know if that is possible, but keep me in mind