When you find out will you let me know?

 

The new rules should open the doors for a lot of racers to attend who wanted to before but couldnt qualify. I am too far away and will not make it this year becuase of work, but will try my best to make it next year.

As to the weight, my car weights a bit over 3200 and is a total street car. I can't imagine getting that last 200 out of it without some serious considerations on comfort, but it is not only possible but fairly easy to get the first ~200 pounds off an LT1 - while still keeping carpeting, stereo, bumpers, airbags, etc.

 

I would say something here about your cars weight, either you weigh 300lbs or you fibbed on the weight...either way I AM LMAO.

If mine weighed what yours does I would run 10.60's all motor....my heap is fixin' to LOSE some weight. As am I.


David

 

mine shoud tip in right around the 3200 raceweight...but I have given up the radio, airbags, etc....but other than the missing radio and AC controls...the interior will still look pretty stock

 

DAMN! how did you do that? WOW!


David

 

Just a question. If I'm running NA in heads up 6 speed and since power adders are allowed. Can my penalties for weight (converted intake and aftermarket pcm) be negated? Not like I've got a chance against the power adder guys but I would like to play in the 6 speed class. Or maybe just let me(or any NA guys) get the car as light as I can since I'm the underdog taking on the juice guys.

 

Once again, you completely fail at making any sense whatsoever. My car is ~3250 street car - No A/C, but aftermarket head unit and stock speakers and such still intact and working. What is there not to get??? Z's are bit lighter then formy's anyway. I have no clue what you are getting at, and your post fails to give any benefit to the thread at all, try again.

I can lead you to some sites or give ya some tips if you'd like. I'd be mad too if I spent that kind of cash to still be in 11's



Once again, I totally agree with the new rules, and it should not only increase the turnout but allow those who do come to have a more even shot against other cars.

 

Tim,

that is a reasonable request. let me get back to you on that.

regards,
taner

 

I think what he's trying to say is your car seems kind of light for what you have disclosed. Iv'e done tubular upper and lower a arms tubular k member light weight carpet no air bags light weight seats, no back seats, no sway bar. No spare or jack, Bogarts wheels and I'm sure I'm missing something and your lighter than me. How much lighter are the camaro's than formula's.

 

here is a very good link

https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-racing-tech/17319-weight-reduction-list.html

I have done the following...weights are from the link....I didn't weigh parts as they came off

Free stuff....
9...!ABS
21.5!AC compressor
8.5.!AC condenser
....!AC fan motor
13.5!Airbag and bracket, passenger's
4...!Airbag, driver's
....!Air dam
5...!Amp, Monsoon
4...!Antenna, bracket, and motor if applicable
....!Ashtray & lighter
.....!Brackets for removed items
23..!Bumper, front reinforcement and brackets
21..!Bumper, rear reinforcement and brackets
15..!Cats
....!Coating, under carpet
4...!Crossmember brace
....!Cruise control
11..!EGR, air pump, & harware
....!Emblems
5...!Floormats
3...!Foglights and brackets
....!Gas, Extra
4...!Hatch cover
2...!Hatch shocks
3...!Head unit
8...!Heat sheilding
9...!Heater core
3...!Horn
3...!Inner fenderwells, plastic
....!Liscense plate brackets
....!Misc. junk in the car like keys, garage remote, change, owner's manual, etc.
1...!Owner's manual
3...!Panels, under steering wheel
5....Panhard rod brace, upper
....!Power brake booster
....!Parking brake handle
....!Power seat motor
40..!Power steering pump, pulley, idler pulley, Accy bracket
....!Power window motors
.....!Seam Sealer
9...!Seatbelts (rears and passenger's)
34..!Seat, passenger's
19..!Seats, rear
3...!Sheetmetal, extra double walled
5...!Side impact bars
34..!Sound deadening
35..!Spare tire and jack
7...!Speaker panels, hatch
5...!Speaker panels, rear passenger's
15..!Speakers
14..!Swaybar and brackets, front
2...!T-Top holders
.....!Undercoating
1...!Washer fluid pump
9...!Windshield washer fluid
2...!Windshield wiper reservoir
....!Wiring, Excess

Wallet mods....
3...Chromoly LCAs
.....Aluminum driveshaft
14..Chromoly A-arms
30.5Chromoly K-member
....Draglite wheels
....Drag slicks or street slicks
....Drilled axles
10..Electric water pump
30..Fiberglass hood
....Headers
13..Lightweight springs and shocks
6...Lightweight steering wheel
17/29.Racing seat
....Skinny front tires
20..TQ converter, small
....Underdrive pulleys

This about covers it

 

It will be interesting to see what the final race weight is.

 

Yes it will...I was at 3400# before I got serious w/the weight reduction. All I had removed was the rear seats, Radio, ac compressor and condensor, and bumper supports.

 

I finally got serious about some weight reduction also after my 10.39 run which was at 3320ish. It should be alittle lighter now. Still haven't cut anything off the body/frame though.

I'm going to have to find some weight for these classes.

Tanner....just let me know.I'm not sure how to even get the car to 3450 which is what i would need in that class right now. You guys are gonna whup my *** being on the jug so just let me show what the cars got without any weight added...hehe.

 

A bit of advice, if you want to see races like this be successfull and happen year after year, you need to show up, run your car, and hang out. You might think you are not competitive for a class but veteran racers know that the one thing that the winners have in common is that they... showed... up. Take the inaugural LSX Shootout, the All-Motor class was won by a guy who was not even really discussed in pre-event discussions. But one favored car broke and another spun his way to a loss.

I'll ask Rick @ GHTP who plans to cover the race, or I'll offer to do it.

John Ryan

 

John...great advice and alittle coverage is the only way this race will make it. GMHTP is the perfect way to promote this race.

I do agree that the only way you don't have a "chance" in any of these classes is to not show. Plus we all know that some of the best parts of these races are the before/after race shenanigans. For those on the fence..show up, pick a class, and race. I promise that win or loose you will not regret the trip.

 

Well seeing that you CRACKED on me for being in the 11's at an 11.02@124 weighing 3800 LBS! ANd I Spent SOOO much money!?


You run 11.70's with a GUTTED car LMFAO, put your engine in MY chassis you run 12.30's HA HA HA!!!! I have SEEN bolt on stalled LT1's run 12.50's.

If I weighed what YOU do I would run 10.70's on the motor.

As a matter of fact I have YET to see a time posted with a pump gas LT1 that is faster than mine at the same weight on drag radials all motor...have you?

How do you think a Z28 is lighter than a Formula? And BTW I have a Z28.

And FYI, running 124mph in a 3800lb car is HARD to do. Dont believe me, put 500lbs in your junk at watch how bad it slows down.

Everytime I see you post the car gets lighter, why is that?

I am not disappointed in my car AT ALL, why would I be? A REAL pumpgas streetcar through full exhaust all the way to the bumper on drag radials weighing 3800lbs running 124 mph? Runs ok to me.

At 3300 lb raceweight it would run 10.50 at 129 ish MPH on pumpfuel and drag radials with a 4L60E.


YOU build one that will do that and get back with me.

Back on topic guys, sorry.

David

 

whoa... emotions are flaring

 

You rock PSJ! Thanks man!

 

Yeh this guy is an internet know it all, with a slower car than mine??!!

But anyway, If I get enough weight out of the car and get it lined out on the spray when I put spray on it.....I will come to the shootout.



David

 

As you can tell, he is still butthurt that his ram air praising got shot down, so he now makes it a fact to try to insult my full DD street car at whatever chance he gets - even though he has probably 3 times the cash in it yet only runs .7 or so quicker .

Your fomy was lighter then mine yet I am still somehow too light for a streetcar . Its not all that hard!

Here ya go fastboy, my "secrets" I did to get a light street car!!! Even explained it all *gasps*:

Draglites(stock 16x8 saladshooter rims are 78lbs total, these ~46) -32
race seats(stock electric driver seat is 42lbs and passenger 34=76 for the stockers...these are ~20lbs ea) -36
AC/condenser/lines Some say 40, but it is much closer to 30...I am conservative -30
Fiberglass Cowl Hood(stock is 44lbs, ASCD bolt-on is 20) -24
Braille Auto Battery(stock ~40lbs, this is 15) -25
Stall(stock auto stall is ~50lbs, 245mm is 30) -23
EGR/AIRpump/EVAP crap -~10
No rear seats -29
spare tire/jack -38
Front sway bar -7
Misc crap like having 1/4 tank gas(premium is ~6.3lbs a gallon, only having 1/4 tank takes off 70lbs+ on a 15lb tank(!)), empty windshield washer fluid(11), etc.

~335 lbs of weight reduction on an LT1 auto coupe - while still maintaining all the comforts besides AC. Now, of course for daily use the front sway bar/spare/washer fluid and stuff goes back in, but that is still over 225lbs+ off the car as it is driven every day. Still has radio/CD player, full carpeting, floormats/seat covers, headliner, bumpers, etc. Can get it lighter easily but will start to lose more comfort then it would be worth for a street car. Def not gutted! Stock cubes, mild custom grind HR, and ported heads w/ suspension + supporting mods it ran 11.7 on drag radials in tropical summer. Good weather and slicks should be 11.5 ez, but I am not one to bench race

If It was a track only car I could whip out the sawzall, gut it, and probably get it down to 3100 or less w/o driver. I don't see how you could build that engine but not be able to drop a few lbs off the car - 3800 raceweight is rediculous. Or was it just mailed to you in a crate?

I don't see why you have to comment on everything I say anyway - if you do not agree with it, then you have no reason whatsover to listen. I guess I should be flattered by all the attention you give me .

Sorry for the disruption guys - at least the weight reduction stuff was fairly on topic