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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 09:49 PM
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OKay just got my wideband in...and its running rich biiig time! Well I get around 250 KM per tank (55-60ish liters)


Okay Temp outside is 61*F today
Car temp was at 180ish
Car timed for N2O

IDLE...14.7:1ish
1500ish-1800 14.7-15.2:1

WOT...drops down to 10.1 then climbs to about 10.9:1 but then after I get off it is leans out to max on the gauge and wont read and the exhuast pops

How can i lean this sucker out a bit??

Jay

Anyways the chart i have in tuner cat (if this is the right one reads

Closed TPS spark advance

RPM Spark Degree
0 0.0
400 28.0
800 28.0
1200 30.0
1600 34.0
2000 34.0
2400 34.0
2800 35.0
3200 37.0
3600 37.0
4000 37.0
4400 37.0
4800 37.0

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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jay_rich
Car timed for N2O
What is you A/F with the N2O on?

Sounds like you just need to get a good dyno tune
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 10:11 PM
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What is you A/F with the N2O on?

Sounds like you just need to get a good dyno tune
I never installed it on the car...it was set up from the truck it was in before and i never got around to changing the timming (since i just got tunercat and dont know how lol )

Also i beleive i have a small exhaust leak just after my Y pipe....(wideband is installed at the end of the Y)

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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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Sorry. I over look the part were you said you had tunercat
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Assuming you have some way to correlate RPM with the wideband data, you want to modify the %change A/F Ratio at WOT vs RPM table.

Lower numbers result in a leaner mixture.

The generally accepted formula is:
AFR = 14.7 / (1 + (% change WOT vs coolant temp / 100) + (% change at WOT vs RPM/100))

The two %change variables are the values in the two PE tables (coolant temp and RPM). Using this formula with the stock numbers you can see that the targeted a/f on the stock tune is in the low 11s which is around what you were reading (within a margin of error).

You may also find the spreadsheets on this page useful:
http://para.noid.org/~lj/PCM%20Tutorial/PCMtutorial.htm

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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by infinitebird
Assuming you have some way to correlate RPM with the wideband data, you want to modify the %change A/F Ratio at WOT vs RPM table.

Lower numbers result in a leaner mixture.

The generally accepted formula is:
AFR = 14.7 / (1 + (% change WOT vs coolant temp / 100) + (% change at WOT vs RPM/100))

The two %change variables are the values in the two PE tables (coolant temp and RPM). Using this formula with the stock numbers you can see that the targeted a/f on the stock tune is in the low 11s which is around what you were reading (within a margin of error).


You may also find the spreadsheets on this page useful:
http://para.noid.org/~lj/PCM%20Tutorial/PCMtutorial.htm
here is that graph from my pcm

RPM %Change
400 4.7
800 4.7
1200 -0.8
1600 -0.8
2000 -0.8
2400 4.7
2800 4.7
3200 4.7
3600 4.7
4000 4.7
4400 3.1
4800 -0.4
5200 -3.9
5600 -7.8
6000 -7.8
6400 -7.8
6800 -7.8

Jay
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 08:54 PM
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ok well that table makes sense from your observed data but, do you understand how to use that formula to get the a/f you want?
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Originally Posted by infinitebird
ok well that table makes sense from your observed data but, do you understand how to use that formula to get the a/f you want?
No clue still lmao....

Jay
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Ok, post your %change coolant temp at wot table also, and I'll give a better explanation.
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