how much cam are you run in a DD's?
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I love this cam, it's not a race car its a weekend cruise in car that does make it to some events. For it to make 408 RWHP on stock cubes was pretty damn good I thought. We do all of our own tuning and it has awesome street manners. If it was a auto and bigger cubes with a stall would it run better sure, hell if it was a LS7 transplant with a glide it would fly, what's your point? BTW our 1/4 mile times are pretty damn close, my best was a 11.32 @ 123.54.
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im running a rather small cam...218/218 .555int/.555exh lift on a 112 lsa..it works well for what I wanted..there are better cam choices out there and I should have done more research before buying one but Im happy with the performance I have and am glad I just didnt pick a wickedly big cam and throw it in there..mine drives well with the 3200 stall
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http://www.fquick.com/garages/Pontia...Am/1995/14339/
no nitrous listed and I don't see anything in the engine compartment... unless it's hidden.
amazingly clean and fast car btw!
no nitrous listed and I don't see anything in the engine compartment... unless it's hidden.
amazingly clean and fast car btw!
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I don't want this to turn into a BASH FEST about "too much/too little cam" this is more about a cam that has usable power in a daily driver.I am not attempting to insult the intelligence of anyone on this board! As i see it this is a huge family and we will have OPINIONS......
In a car that i would truely call a DD would not have any surge,does not have to be twisted to high rpms just to get the power from it....If LPE had cam specs to make a TPI car run mid/hi 12s they will definately run low 12s to high 11s without a bunch of rpm to achieve the goal......
I will not deny the sound of a hard hittin cam,it's music to my ears but not in a car that is driven daily.....
We can play the CI card now,if you have a 350 and have an 847 cam it is going to sound more aggressive than a 383 utilizing the same 847 and of course the drivability around town will be different!
As stated before i really like to have a DD car that has a slight sound of a performance cam and runs 11s than a car that sounds like its just gotta run 10s but can't hardly pop of 11s it's all personal preference though.
In a car that i would truely call a DD would not have any surge,does not have to be twisted to high rpms just to get the power from it....If LPE had cam specs to make a TPI car run mid/hi 12s they will definately run low 12s to high 11s without a bunch of rpm to achieve the goal......
I will not deny the sound of a hard hittin cam,it's music to my ears but not in a car that is driven daily.....
We can play the CI card now,if you have a 350 and have an 847 cam it is going to sound more aggressive than a 383 utilizing the same 847 and of course the drivability around town will be different!
As stated before i really like to have a DD car that has a slight sound of a performance cam and runs 11s than a car that sounds like its just gotta run 10s but can't hardly pop of 11s it's all personal preference though.
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if I were building a daily driver I would have a CC503 specced on a 110 lsa. nice sounding, choppy idle, don't have to rev too high. I have a pretty high tolerance for driveability than most. my next cam is similar to a T-Rex for an LS1!
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I love this cam, it's not a race car its a weekend cruise in car that does make it to some events. For it to make 408 RWHP on stock cubes was pretty damn good I thought. We do all of our own tuning and it has awesome street manners. If it was a auto and bigger cubes with a stall would it run better sure, hell if it was a LS7 transplant with a glide it would fly, what's your point? BTW our 1/4 mile times are pretty damn close, my best was a 11.32 @ 123.54.
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edit...saw your fquick stuff where it says 7.30s in the 1/8...You have all options? A/C etc?
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Well, I stand corrected then...Yours is now 1 of only 2 I've ever seen run well with that cam...My point was simply that I wouldn't DD a cam that big...To each his own...If you run 7.70s in the 1/8 and 11.30s @ 123 that thing is flat out flying...To make up for a 6 car lead I'd have on you in the 1/8 that's very impressive...
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edit...saw your fquick stuff where it says 7.30s in the 1/8...You have all options? A/C etc?
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edit...saw your fquick stuff where it says 7.30s in the 1/8...You have all options? A/C etc?
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FWIW Alan, It is a great 40-150 car, the cam does hurt on the launch, I launch it @ 6800 and it still either spins or bogs it just a bit killing the 60" time. But boy she is fun on the open road playing with some other guys surprising them what a little LT1 can do. BTW awesome times on your ride also on DR's especially!
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http://www.fquick.com/garages/Pontia...Am/1995/14339/
no nitrous listed and I don't see anything in the engine compartment... unless it's hidden.
amazingly clean and fast car btw!
no nitrous listed and I don't see anything in the engine compartment... unless it's hidden.
amazingly clean and fast car btw!
yes it is clean...and runs what it should for 3150# with ~460HP. The weight reduction makes a huge difference - it must have a ton of stuff removed to get down to 3150.
BTW - I could be wrong, but the TNT plate that was in his sig is a nitrous set-up. I'm asking if his et/mph is with or without using it.
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FWIW Alan, It is a great 40-150 car, the cam does hurt on the launch, I launch it @ 6800 and it still either spins or bogs it just a bit killing the 60" time. But boy she is fun on the open road playing with some other guys surprising them what a little LT1 can do. BTW awesome times on your ride also on DR's especially!
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...and I just saw the 3150 weight...Wow! That would make a huge difference! I can't imagine what I'd run at 400lbs less...mmmmm..
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I will tell you, the car felt like a different beast, I did all the weight mods at one time getting ready for the Fbodygathering last year and man, it felt it gained a 100HP losing that weight!! I was very close last year to changing mine over to a auto and stall!! and every time I drive one I think about it even more, so much more consistent and easier to race for sure!!
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I actually went a lot smaller. My engine is getting rebuilt and I wanted to put a cam in it, but it is still a DD and I know I'll get pulled over in California if it sounds like I have a cam. I went with a CC 501 cam. I called CC and I let them know I didn't want a lope that will get me pulled over, so they recommended this cam. It's 212/218 @.50 with 488/495 lift with stock 1.5 rockers. The engine should be done this week so I'll post up results.
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when the chevelle was my daily driver, i had a 10:1 350 in it with a comp xe268 flat tappet cam. 224/230 477/480 cam. it also had a holley 750 vac sec carb, with 4spd and 355's. ran great, not to soggy down low, it was a great cam.
so i dont see why a 220-224/230ish cam wouldnt be bad for a roller cam.
my new motor is a vortec truck block, with voodoo hyd roller 231/239 535/550 lift with brodix aluminum heads, and will be my DD again.
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so i dont see why a 220-224/230ish cam wouldnt be bad for a roller cam.
my new motor is a vortec truck block, with voodoo hyd roller 231/239 535/550 lift with brodix aluminum heads, and will be my DD again.
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when the chevelle was my daily driver, i had a 10:1 350 in it with a comp xe268 flat tappet cam. 224/230 477/480 cam. it also had a holley 750 vac sec carb, with 4spd and 355's. ran great, not to soggy down low, it was a great cam.
so i dont see why a 220-224/230ish cam wouldnt be bad for a roller cam.
my new motor is a vortec truck block, with voodoo hyd roller 231/239 535/550 lift with brodix aluminum heads, and will be my DD again.
aaron
so i dont see why a 220-224/230ish cam wouldnt be bad for a roller cam.
my new motor is a vortec truck block, with voodoo hyd roller 231/239 535/550 lift with brodix aluminum heads, and will be my DD again.
aaron
crazyhorse, you made a fairly big mistake calling Comp and asking for a recommendation, 99% chance you spoke to someone who has never so much as lashed a rocker much less actually modified anything. They just look at the catalogue and tell you to use one of those cams.
The LPE 211/219 would have been my recommendation, little more lift and solid proven results. Not saying the 501 is bad just that the way you arrived at choosing it was very bad.
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so you can kinda see that when i look at less than 230 degree cam in a 6spd car, i don't even think it'll sound good!
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i should have said the motor won't quite be stock
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i have to admit that this is my first LT1 build, i knew the LSx heads moved the power band up but i didn't know that about the LT1.
i've always built either real radical motors, or stock motors, never had use for one in between til now.
i have to give you props though your car runs very good!