grey1k

like the title says, how much cam are you guys running in a TRUE daily driver?

i'm putting a motor together for my 6 spd car so i've been looking at cams as big as 236 @ 0.050, and .560 lift.

whats the thought on this?

96capricemgr

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IN a stock shortblock especially with stock heads and compression that is too much duration. The lift is fine though.

I am running roughly 10 degrees less duration and lift similar to that and look at the times in the sig.

Overcamming is one of the oldest and most enduring mistakes in hotrodding and you seem to be looking to carry the tradition on..

96lt1m6

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try looking at 211/219 with 530°/560° lift...LPE design..
most true statement of all is "OVERCAMMING" most people open a cam spec book find the page and the eyes go directly to the bottom where the big sticks are the car sounds like a 10 second race car that runs 13s..
low duration(split) high lift 110-114 lobe center depending on the curve needed for N/A,blower,turbo,N2O...........
96capricemgr has an 11 second land barge that brings jet ski's to the lake,more people should take his advise it obviously works!

mhayes2344

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What is your all's opinion on the LPE 219/219 cam? I'm looking at it for a DD. Stock heads, 1.6 RR's, crane dual valve springs, mac mid-length headers, 373's...stock trans.

Is it too big for stock heads and no stall or will it work alright until I can put a built trans and stall then down the road heads?

96lt1m6

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i like the cam,i named the cam above which i think would be better but along the same lines.the 219/219 was designed more for TPI engines but will work

StealthFormula

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the 219/219 is a good cam but I would get the 211/219 before I would get that because the stock LT1 heads have restrictive exhaust ports so they benefit more from a cam with more duration on the exhaust side. It will work fine without a stall but be nowhere near as nice as it will be when you do have a stall.

To the OP: I DD with the cc503 (224/230) and its fine but only with my stall, on the stock stall it was terrible. I wouldnt personally DD with a cam any larger because mine has its moments when it likes to stall when Im in reverse and of course everyone is watching me lol but for the most part its a friendly cam but anymore would be pushing it. You should read this over carefully because if you over cam the car is will not be DD friendly:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-modifications/836200-stock-head-cam-cam-swap-guide.html

ABA383

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DD is in the eyes of the beholder, but I loved my LPE 211/219 cam and used it for years...My neighbor has a CC503 and loves it...Now I run a custom 226/234 and could easily DD, but I have other cars to take to work...I've been driving my Formula all weekend and could easily DD all over the place...I'm very particular when it comes to drivability and have driven mine to work, on 360 mile round trips, hell, anywhere...It still gets a tick over 20 mpg on the highway even with 4.10s...

Just watch out as others have said for overcamming...The bottom of the page stuff sounds great and usually runs like ***...

--Alan

LALT1

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I run the XFI 292 in my Daily driver. all in the eyes of the beholder I guess, and she's a solid 7.70 1/8th mile car with a M6?? Just all what you are wanting. Alot of people will use the over camming term, however if it's just a driver and you want a good sound is it over camming?? If you are wanting peak HP and TQ #'s to combine with your set up, then yes it is, however I have built many of these and went with the old CC304/305's and 503 cams. Changed nothing went to a CC306 or 847 and the car picked up considerably, so is it over camming, if your a book head, yes. A realist looking at actual numbers then no.

phirepower

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biggest i'd go is gm 846 or comp 503

96capricemgr

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I have run 7.5s in the 1/8 with a cam similar to the one ABA383 is running and a bigger car. To me that says based on real numbers yes the 292 XFI is too big.

mean94lt1

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not if you want the sound like he said might be too big to make peak performance yes you are right but if you want the sound its a great sounding cam and performs well your cars are also auto his is a m6 car

96capricemgr

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A good sounding cam is as easy as getting one spec'd right rather than the stupidly wide LSAs the off the shelf stuff comes with.

mean94lt1

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do you have any sound clips of your car? or another car with a small cam like yours?

Matts94Z28

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I DD'd a 230/244 .544/.576 112lsa for oer a year and didn't have any issues.

ABA383

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I'm not at all trying to start any crap, but I've got you by 6 cars in the 1/8 alone with a cam much smaller than yours...I'm a realist and don't care about dyno numbers..I look at drivability and track performance...Why should you go through the work of installing a cam that clearly is not optimized for the combo...If you are happy with what you have, that's great, but I wouldn't be...We can just agree to disagree. My cam sounds very nice, I get compliments on it all the time, but that was not a factor in why I picked it...I'm told that it sounds pretty nasty from behind which is the view most get of the car...

The only person I've seen who runs the XFI292 with any success is the Engineer and he's got a 396!

--Alan

Beaflag VonRathburg

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You're also running a 383 and an automatic. He's running a stock displacement 6 speed. Compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges.

ABA383

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Which is more reason not to run a cam that big, especially if its a DD...You are right I am running a 383 and an auto and if I had listened some of the advice I had initially gotten on these forums I would have gone way too big on my cam choice and probably would have been much slower with a car that had crappy street manners, but sounded good...I am saying that I am running more displacement yet a way smaller cam...Just trying to be helpful...There's a fine line between fast, durable, and daily drivable...I think I've found it and was just trying to impart some knowledge that took me years to figure out...

--Alan

SS MPSTR

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sometimes it's futile and you have to let people learn for themselves.

...been to the big cam, crappy street manners, slower than it should have been movie and got the t-shirt.

speed_demon24

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Odo1HY0Y0

96capricemgr

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I have quieter exhaust and his cam is slightly bigger than mine but it gives you an idea. I do not have a good idle video of mine. I don't own a video camera and at the track I always forget to have a friend take a idle video though there are some racing ones.