my LT1 is the slowest
my LT1 is the slowest its got all the good parts and everything else.................etc
I'm tired of hearing about solid set ups that run **** times. Why does this happen a majority of the time or seem to happen a majority of the time?
I'm tired of hearing about solid set ups that run **** times. Why does this happen a majority of the time or seem to happen a majority of the time?
I thought the same thing when i couldn't get better then a 14.3 @ 98, but i came to find out it was driver error for the most part, i don't have as many mods as you, at this point after 2 trips to the track, i've mustard a 13.79 @ 101.04 best so far on a still crappy 2.17 60ft., i know theres a 13.5 in my car on a 2.0, so unless your running slower then that, i'd say your doing pretty good, what kind of times are you running?
97 Z28 6sp.
97 Z28 6sp.
Put a good clutch, good rear end with 4.10s or better, and driveshaft under the car, along with a set of ET Drags, and it'll run a decent time. 
LS1 driveshafts are weak, I'm talking something like a Denny's Nitrous Ready driveshaft.
Most M6 drivers don't do it right to get good times. If you don't have the clutch, driveshaft, and rear that can handle a 5500+ dump on slicks, you'll not pull a great 60' time. You would probably see high 1.5's / low 1.6 60' times launching that way.
LS1 driveshafts are weak, I'm talking something like a Denny's Nitrous Ready driveshaft.Most M6 drivers don't do it right to get good times. If you don't have the clutch, driveshaft, and rear that can handle a 5500+ dump on slicks, you'll not pull a great 60' time. You would probably see high 1.5's / low 1.6 60' times launching that way.
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From your signature what did you expect?
Most effective items I saw were 1.6 RR's, CAI, and TB bypass. If tuned correctly they MIGHT get you .25 sec in 1/8 depending on the accuracy of your decription of "homeported junk" you could have lost .30 sec.
Good luck
Most effective items I saw were 1.6 RR's, CAI, and TB bypass. If tuned correctly they MIGHT get you .25 sec in 1/8 depending on the accuracy of your decription of "homeported junk" you could have lost .30 sec.
Good luck
He has LTs too.
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Longtubes will absolutely deliver as much HP as RR's. I've done all of those mods (every single bolt-on you can think of) and have compared before and after dyno numbers. LT's definitely add HP/TQ across the board over stock exhaust manifolds, but I have to agree, he may be losing some power based on his "homeported junk heads" ? The biggest thing to remember is just making sure all of your mods are working for you and not against (IE: homeported junk heads, possibly ? )
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Are you implying LT's don't add HP?? Or headers in general? If so, your response is pretty fuc*ing stupid
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Are you implying LT's don't add HP?? Or headers in general? If so, your response is pretty fuc*ing stupid
RR's, CAI WILL add hp!
Headers with a stock cam won't come close to the power those two add.
If the last part wasn't in your post I would have guessed I wrote it in invisible ink.
BattleShip, i have to disagree with you 100%, & i did read what you wrote, there is NO WAY that headers won't give you more HP/TQ then a CAI & RRs combind WITH a stock cammed LT1, but you need to put in a good exhaust system too, which most people do anyways, those 2 things combined will net you a good 25+ HP over stock junk, RRs & a CAI will not come close to those #s, i know how my 97 ran before i installed some LTs & ory, it was night & day, & i'm running a K&N CAI, i don't have RRs, but they have been known to only net maybe 3-5 HP at best on a STOCK cam.
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The discussion did NOT include an exhaust, look the posters' signature. And if you ever read a book I suggest you read a book on logic, and look up large number fallacy
50,000 flies eat crap everyday, therefore, you should change your diet.
Your statement is just as wrong and is no more compelling. So let me summarize your 100% disagreement is based on a fallacy, supported by hearsay, since you stated
Thanks for the laugh
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Here is what his signature contained.
1997 Chameleon Green/Blue Firebird Formula, M6
Moroso CAI, TB airfoil, 160* T-Stat, Pcmforless tune, Short Throw Hurst shifter, TNA Short Stick, !CAGS, LS1 Driveshaft, TF Elbow, Bilstein HD shocks/struts, TB bypass, upgraded antenna, Pacesetter LTs, ORY, Hooker Aerochamber muffler, 1.6 rrs, homeported junk, lt4 springs.
Last time I checked a muffler was not considered an exhaust system, but I am sure there will be a new angle to misread my post despite being written at the 9th grade level.
I do not understand what the big deal is with LTs? Read what I saidf his mods are not significant and I do not see where anyone should expect much improvement with his mods. But from the responses I guess you all have
285 (Shirley with tune) + 25 LTs + 5 TB bypass = 315 RWHP which means most believe those mods will equal the power of an LS1?
Wish I could agree, but I live in the real world and I will simply let this thread fester on it's own.
Thanks again
1997 Chameleon Green/Blue Firebird Formula, M6
Moroso CAI, TB airfoil, 160* T-Stat, Pcmforless tune, Short Throw Hurst shifter, TNA Short Stick, !CAGS, LS1 Driveshaft, TF Elbow, Bilstein HD shocks/struts, TB bypass, upgraded antenna, Pacesetter LTs, ORY, Hooker Aerochamber muffler, 1.6 rrs, homeported junk, lt4 springs.
Last time I checked a muffler was not considered an exhaust system, but I am sure there will be a new angle to misread my post despite being written at the 9th grade level.
I do not understand what the big deal is with LTs? Read what I saidf his mods are not significant and I do not see where anyone should expect much improvement with his mods. But from the responses I guess you all have
285 (Shirley with tune) + 25 LTs + 5 TB bypass = 315 RWHP which means most believe those mods will equal the power of an LS1?
Wish I could agree, but I live in the real world and I will simply let this thread fester on it's own.
Thanks again
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Well glad someone read the whole post, but amazed that you can't understand what you read. You can't change my statement by adding an exhaust to support your belief.
The discussion did NOT include an exhaust, look the posters' signature. And if you ever read a book I suggest you read a book on logic, and look up large number fallacy
50,000 flies eat crap everyday, therefore, you should change your diet.
Your statement is just as wrong and is no more compelling. So let me summarize your 100% disagreement is based on a fallacy, supported by hearsay, since you stated at least use your own experience if you want to have any credibility.
Thanks for the laugh
The discussion did NOT include an exhaust, look the posters' signature. And if you ever read a book I suggest you read a book on logic, and look up large number fallacy
50,000 flies eat crap everyday, therefore, you should change your diet.
Your statement is just as wrong and is no more compelling. So let me summarize your 100% disagreement is based on a fallacy, supported by hearsay, since you stated at least use your own experience if you want to have any credibility.
Thanks for the laugh
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join another site
if you want to be a *****
Mr. I sunk your Battleship
Son that is PRICELESS!
Never said you didn't know anything nor will I..just that you seem to be a smartass to others with your reply examples that have nothing to do with this site...lets end it here alright?
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NO!
Not until YOU aplogize for your statements such as your opening
If so, your response is pretty fuc*ing stupid
For you to open with that and pretend I was the smart *** won't fly. You would be banned on any other site I belong to for your rants.
Good luck
Not until YOU aplogize for your statements such as your opening
If so, your response is pretty fuc*ing stupid
For you to open with that and pretend I was the smart *** won't fly. You would be banned on any other site I belong to for your rants.
Good luck