LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

Battery Relocation..Progress Thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 5, 2009 | 09:30 AM
  #61  
strokerblackhawk's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 273
Likes: 0
From: Houston, Texas
Default

yea i used 0 gauge wire with no problems. i used the BMR mounting braket to hide the battery in the spare tire storage place. you might wanna think about swithching to a sealed batery like an optima since the batteries in the car now and if that acid battery reptures or leaks it's gonna leave a huge mess. i have the yellow top optima theyre kinda pricey but worth it.
Reply
Old Mar 5, 2009 | 09:59 AM
  #62  
the_merv's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned
iTrader: (88)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 21,019
Likes: 891
From: The Beach...
Default

I kept the same setup that I had posted with in this thread.. I used some 2Ga on the Neg. Terminal instead of the Grounding Strap that I had on it. The 4Ga that I have still goes to the positive junction block, it starts up and runs without any problems.

I know alot of you guys are building race setups, I'm just running mine for street use.
Reply
Old Mar 6, 2009 | 03:25 PM
  #63  
OddballLt1's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 177
Likes: 0
Default Batt relocation.

Having starting issues. I ran 2Ga from the battery to the distribution block. I think 4Ga from the alt to the distribution block and also the same for the starter. I have a ground in the back on the chassis. Also I have one on the engine bay. Please help!
Reply
Old Mar 6, 2009 | 05:46 PM
  #64  
the_merv's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned
iTrader: (88)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 21,019
Likes: 891
From: The Beach...
Default

I would put another one on the Engine, with mine I have 2 Grounds on the Engine.. the Ground Strap on the driver's side, and a 8Ga bolted from the Block to the Frame Rail on the passenger's side.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2010 | 01:56 PM
  #65  
SS125's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 596
Likes: 0
From: Rochester, Michigan
Default

I am in the process of doing this right now and I think I have read every post on this subject. I have one question. If NHRA rules say you turn the switch off and that cuts off all the power, then if the alternator and the positive side of the battery are hooked together on the switch, then won't you still be getting power to the alternator? The other side on most of the diagrams I've seen have a cable running to the starter and the other post is where the positive side of the battery and the alternator are. Would this not still feed to the alternator? Am I incorrect in thinking that maybe the alternator and the starter should be on one post and the battery on the other so that when it is turned off, it shuts everything off. I am definitely electronically challenged so any help any of you can shed on this would be greatly appreciated.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2010 | 03:39 PM
  #66  
lethal93ta's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 501
Likes: 0
From: bethel PA
Default

Originally Posted by SS125
I am in the process of doing this right now and I think I have read every post on this subject. I have one question. If NHRA rules say you turn the switch off and that cuts off all the power, then if the alternator and the positive side of the battery are hooked together on the switch, then won't you still be getting power to the alternator? The other side on most of the diagrams I've seen have a cable running to the starter and the other post is where the positive side of the battery and the alternator are. Would this not still feed to the alternator? Am I incorrect in thinking that maybe the alternator and the starter should be on one post and the battery on the other so that when it is turned off, it shuts everything off. I am definitely electronically challenged so any help any of you can shed on this would be greatly appreciated.
you need to keep the alt power feed on the same side as the battery, if you have it on the other side it would still be putting power out and let the engine run. even if the battery is killed, disconnect your battery while your car is running it will keep on going. you dont need a battery after teh car is started the alt does everything.
Reply
Old Nov 13, 2011 | 08:28 PM
  #67  
HP52TA's Avatar
Teching In
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
Default

Sorry to bring up an old thread, but I have been doing a lot of searching on battery relocation and this has been one of the most informative threads that I have found.

With the NHRA ruling identifying that the battery switch needs to cutoff all power, I am wondering if the alternator power to the battery can be cutoff in a different manner.

In thinking out of the box, instead of bringing a #4 cable from the alternator, back to the battery side of the cutoff switch, I am thinking of going a different route, but need some more knowledgeable input before I proceed.

As the LS1 alternator has a "Generator Turn ON Signal" (R15 output from the PCM) to enable the alternator output charging, can this input to the alternator also be used to disable the alternator output? If it can be used without damaging the alternator or PCM, here is my idea.

Install a 12VDC relay with the coil leads between the two points of the cutoff switch itself. When the cutoff switch is closed, the relay would see 0 volts across its coil and be de-energized; when the cutoff switch is open, the relay would see 12 volts across its coil and energize. The second part of teh circuit is that this relays contact is in series with the "Generator Turn ON Signal" between the PCM and the alternator. When the cutoff switch is open, the relay energizes and opens the "Generator Turn ON Signal" disabling the alternator output. If this works without any issues, there would no longer be a need to run a seperate cable from the alternator to the cutoff switch. At this point, this is all theory, so I cannot confirm if the alternator will function in the manner I have indicated. If the cutoff switch is used to disconnect the battery when storing the vehicle, you would also have to pull the relay to prevent any discharge.

I realize in the current method with having the cable running from the alternator to the battery will provide slightly less voltage drop between the alternator and the battery for charging than it would backfeeding the alternator power through the main power lead going to the engine bay, but the difference in voltage at the battery should be negligible.

Currently I have a 1/0 running from my battery cutoff switch to my distribution point in my engine bay. From the disctribution point, I have a 1/0running to my starter and I am going to use a #4 to the alternator.

Would this method be suitable to meet the NHRA rules, or am I missing something?
Reply
Old Nov 13, 2011 | 09:59 PM
  #68  
lt1slowz28's Avatar
TECH Resident
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 787
Likes: 0
From: T E X A S
Default

I think it would be best to run the full sized wire all the way back, that in the event of something happening you can manually break the circuit to the entire car back there rather than tell a relay to energize or not.


less parts=less problems
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-3

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-7

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

 Brett Foote
story-9

10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Nov 13, 2011 | 10:10 PM
  #69  
05HD's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,025
Likes: 1
From: CT/NJ
Default

Originally Posted by HP52TA
Install a 12VDC relay with the coil leads between the two points of the cutoff switch itself. When the cutoff switch is closed, the relay would see 0 volts across its coil and be de-energized; when the cutoff switch is open, the relay would see 12 volts across its coil and energize.
That will not turn on the relay. You need power and ground to turn on a relay, not power and nothing.
Reply
Old Nov 14, 2011 | 05:02 PM
  #70  
Big Al's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 970
Likes: 1
Default

Use a two pole switch:

http://www.downwindmarine.com/Batter...e-p-13995.html

Just the first thing I found. Speedway, Jeg's and Summit all have them. You can't cut it off with a relay, this is the only way.

Al 95 Z28
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:02 AM.

story-0
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-3
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-4
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-5
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE
story-8
Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

The world was a better place when it was still around.

By Brett Foote | 2026-01-23 09:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

Slideshow: The 7.0-liter LS7 was designed for absolute cutting-edge performance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-07 18:36:00


VIEW MORE