Is this a synchro problem or a clutch problem???
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Is this a synchro problem or a clutch problem??? First, a little about the car...
Here are the problems...
Now, I thought if I changed the DEXIII to Synchromesh, it would take care of these problems, but it didn't. It made normal shifting smoother though. I never had these problems with my 01 Z, so it's really bother me. So does anyone had any ideas?
- It's a 2000 (yes, I know it has the junk clutch and hydraulics)
- It has a Hurst shifter (I have a Pro 5.0 ordered)
- The car only has 12K miles
Here are the problems...
- At high rpms (5K+), it will scratch going into 2nd gear when I'm reaming on it. If I take it easy, it goes in nicely.
- If I'm doing a powerbreak (or whatever you might want to call it), it will never go to 2nd. It'll make this horrible grinding nasty sound, almost as if I blew the tranny (at least that's what my T5 sounded like when I destroyed that).
- If I don't take it easy to go from 2nd to 3rd, it'll fly right into 5th and make the nasty grinding sound.
- If I'm slowing down from say, 50mph, and am in like 5th or 4th, and I have the clutch in and try to put it in 1st, it will grind and not go into gear. If I am going like 30mph and try to do the same thing, it'll go into 1st and I can just coast to a stop.
Now, I thought if I changed the DEXIII to Synchromesh, it would take care of these problems, but it didn't. It made normal shifting smoother though. I never had these problems with my 01 Z, so it's really bother me. So does anyone had any ideas?
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From: Fremont cali
my .02...had same prob with friends car
Originally Posted by DMNSPD
First, a little about the car...
Here are the problems...
Now, I thought if I changed the DEXIII to Synchromesh, it would take care of these problems, but it didn't. It made normal shifting smoother though. I never had these problems with my 01 Z, so it's really bother me. So does anyone had any ideas?
- It's a 2000 (yes, I know it has the junk clutch and hydraulics)
- It has a Hurst shifter (I have a Pro 5.0 ordered)
- The car only has 12K miles
Here are the problems...
- At high rpms (5K+), it will scratch going into 2nd gear when I'm reaming on it. If I take it easy, it goes in nicely.
- If I'm doing a powerbreak (or whatever you might want to call it), it will never go to 2nd. It'll make this horrible grinding nasty sound, almost as if I blew the tranny (at least that's what my T5 sounded like when I destroyed that).
- If I don't take it easy to go from 2nd to 3rd, it'll fly right into 5th and make the nasty grinding sound.
- If I'm slowing down from say, 50mph, and am in like 5th or 4th, and I have the clutch in and try to put it in 1st, it will grind and not go into gear. If I am going like 30mph and try to do the same thing, it'll go into 1st and I can just coast to a stop.
Now, I thought if I changed the DEXIII to Synchromesh, it would take care of these problems, but it didn't. It made normal shifting smoother though. I never had these problems with my 01 Z, so it's really bother me. So does anyone had any ideas?
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Nope, never pops out of gear.
As far as going to 1st at 50... I'm just saying when I'm trying to come to a stop. Some people row through all the gears to slow down (that'd be me). Sometimes though, i'm lazy and just want to throw it in 1st and leave the clutch in and slow down.
As far as going to 1st at 50... I'm just saying when I'm trying to come to a stop. Some people row through all the gears to slow down (that'd be me). Sometimes though, i'm lazy and just want to throw it in 1st and leave the clutch in and slow down.
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The car doesn't like to do that from such a high speed even if the clutch is in. If you heel-toe downshift it it may help, but from 50mph I'm not sure anything is going to help. Don't be so anxious to get it in gear, just coast down in neutral and engage into first once you've slowed down a lot.
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It's odd because I never really ever drove like that before. I'm just getting to be a lazy person I guess! Time to start rowing through all the gears again.
Besides that, how about the other problems? Synchros? I'm hoping once I get the Pro 5.0 installed, it'll take care of the problem because like I said, I never had these problems with my 01.
Besides that, how about the other problems? Synchros? I'm hoping once I get the Pro 5.0 installed, it'll take care of the problem because like I said, I never had these problems with my 01.
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From: Fremont cali
..hmmm
Originally Posted by DMNSPD
It's odd because I never really ever drove like that before. I'm just getting to be a lazy person I guess! Time to start rowing through all the gears again.
Besides that, how about the other problems? Synchros? I'm hoping once I get the Pro 5.0 installed, it'll take care of the problem because like I said, I never had these problems with my 01.
Besides that, how about the other problems? Synchros? I'm hoping once I get the Pro 5.0 installed, it'll take care of the problem because like I said, I never had these problems with my 01.
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I've always thought of it this way. Your brakes are cheaper than your tranny to replace...so use em! I sometimes throttle match on downshifts when coming to a stop, or just throw it in neutral and use the brakes.
I never use 1st to slow down, it's just added stress on your tranny. It sounds insane to some but just use second or higher like badazz said, and use the brakes.
As for the tranny, it sounds like synchros for sure. I know you just got this car, did the place you get it from give you a warranty? I'm guessing no, which sucks.
The new shifter isn't going to help, it has to be your synchros
Take it into your dealer and have them replaced (if your dealer is any good) Otherwise, I'd think about having it sent out to a performance shop and have a few things upgraded. The cars only got 12k on it and the synchros or gone?
I never use 1st to slow down, it's just added stress on your tranny. It sounds insane to some but just use second or higher like badazz said, and use the brakes.
As for the tranny, it sounds like synchros for sure. I know you just got this car, did the place you get it from give you a warranty? I'm guessing no, which sucks.
The new shifter isn't going to help, it has to be your synchros
Take it into your dealer and have them replaced (if your dealer is any good) Otherwise, I'd think about having it sent out to a performance shop and have a few things upgraded. The cars only got 12k on it and the synchros or gone? LS1 Tech Stories
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Personally I never use the transmission to slow the car to a stop. I have slowed the car in gear when running on a nice curvy road, but never in just general driving around. I would much rather wear the brakes.
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You guys don't understand what i'm saying. I'm not putting the car in gear to slow it down. All I am doing is putting the clutch in, and leaving it in. It's the same as putting the car in Neutral and just coasting. I just put it in a gear and leave the clutch depressed.
And yes, the car has 12K miles, which really bothers me why the synchros would be shot already. I'm guessing the previous owner was a real bone head.
And yes, the car has 12K miles, which really bothers me why the synchros would be shot already. I'm guessing the previous owner was a real bone head.
Originally Posted by DMNSPD
You guys don't understand what i'm saying. I'm not putting the car in gear to slow it down. All I am doing is putting the clutch in, and leaving it in. It's the same as putting the car in Neutral and just coasting. I just put it in a gear and leave the clutch depressed.
And yes, the car has 12K miles, which really bothers me why the synchros would be shot already. I'm guessing the previous owner was a real bone head.
And yes, the car has 12K miles, which really bothers me why the synchros would be shot already. I'm guessing the previous owner was a real bone head.
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From: Fremont cali
don't put it into 1st above 35 no matter what it doesn't matter if the clutch is in or out...the trans is spinning to fast for the synchro to slide over the 1st speed gear...thats y u hear a grinding sound...disengaged or not...its bad...it wears the sh*t out of the synchro. 
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Originally Posted by badazzhawk
it doesn't matter if the clutch is in or out...the trans is spinning to fast for the synchro to slide over the 1st speed gear...thats y u hear a grinding sound...disengaged or not...its bad...it wears the sh*t out of the synchro.
NONETHELESS... I'm done doing, so don't worry
