Jeremy@RPMTransmissions

iTrader: (12)

It does not include the load cell or display.

Project GatTagO

iTrader: (7)

Is that for the S1 shifter?

Andrew

LLave

iTrader: (3)

Just get MTI's sequential trans, done

79_T/A

iTrader: (1)

Yes

That MTI trans probably costs between 20-30 grand when all is said and done. The gearset they use from PPG is 10k itself.

stevieturbo

There is no doubt it will include the display as it is an integral requirement.

Load cell is a good question as it's a $7-800 piece on its own.

I did also ask on the FB page, dont think there was an answer yet.

stevieturbo

You could easily have the Samsonas sequential for a fraction of that. The box itself is circa 10k euros so probably around USD 12k and it would easily be less than 5k to install.

dailydriver

Yeah it's a nice quality piece and all, but for that price, plus the options on top of that, one is most of the way to a trple cone synchro, beefy Magnum, so it looks like it's the MGW for me (for now).

Project GatTagO

iTrader: (7)

If this shifter is really $2700, then it will be a complete and utter fail as a product. As it is, it is barely solving any real or perceived problem. Most people can shift a H-pattern decent enough. If you modify a trans with faceplating from Liberty, it'll shift super fast even with H-pattern shifting. The cost of face plating is less than this shifter!!!

A little birdie also told me that this shifter might actually shift too fast if the transmission uses synchros, and might ultimately lead to premature synchro wear.

There just isn't enough benefit / cost....aka...little value for most people.

Andrew

The Alchemist

iTrader: (19)

For $2700, I can't see them selling many at all, unless it's to someone with too much money and drives a viper or some $$$$ hot rod swap and he wants it to be the ultimate uniqueness.

Project GatTagO

iTrader: (7)

So a market size of 20 per year? That's a fail from a business perspective.

Andrew

stevieturbo

Your making the assumption this is first and foremost a business venture.

As any car enthusiast should know...often development and new products are far from that. Yes some may turn into profitable ventures, but many are designed just because the owner wants to for themselves. If it can be turned into a product to sell to others all good and well.

But if people werent prepared to develop their ideas...it'd be a pretty dull and boring world.

Project GatTagO

iTrader: (7)

Fair enough, but there are indications that this is a business venture. The website is up, a promo video has been made, pricing has been announced.

Andrew

stevieturbo

Quite true I guess.

It will be a niche market, but the world is a big place and there are a lot of T56's out there.

Project GatTagO

iTrader: (7)

True enough, but when the shifter alone (not including display or load cell) is about eh same as a T56 Magnum, you have to wonder if it's a viable business venture.

Andrew

dailydriver

Does Liberty's faceplating allow you to downshift quickly as well (like for road racing/open tracking), or is it a drag race/straight line mod/option ONLY??

I know there is one mod/treatment out there which prevents one from downshifting quickly, but I forgot which one it is (and NO, I am NOT thinking of a Lenco gearbox).

Project GatTagO

iTrader: (7)

Yes, you can downshift a Liberty faceplated T56, no problem. You can read about my experience here:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/manual-tr...rty-s-t56.html

Andrew

stevieturbo

As above, faceplated will go down just as easily as it will up.

In my case....too easy a couple of times nailing 1st instead of 3rd lol

The shifter centre spring on mine isnt that great so it's actually very easy to do that. I've refitted the OEM shifter though as of the 3 I've tried it actually seems to have the strongest centering springs.
Havent driven it since I did that though.

Project GatTagO

iTrader: (7)

True story there...Went to 1st going down the track and got 3 bent valves. That sucked.

Andrew

cdubbzz

iTrader: (11)

damn it...for $2700 I could put a two stage fogger, granny shift and go way faster
MGW installed and ready for abuse

dr_whigham

iTrader: (49)

No *****