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Old Mar 31, 2015 | 03:06 PM
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Reminds me of the MasterShift unit that does the same thing for same ballpark price. Want to say the MasterShift requires more parts and some electronics.
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Old Apr 1, 2015 | 11:08 PM
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Looks worth the money to me. I'm sure they will sell plenty and probably make a ton of money. All while building cool **** to use on their own cars
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Old Apr 5, 2015 | 08:08 PM
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Looks awesome. ....till I hear the rumors of the $2,700 price tag....I'm sorry but that's just nuts if that's what the price is going to be
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Old Apr 6, 2015 | 11:41 AM
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Anyone follow their fb page for updates?
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Old Apr 6, 2015 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 02SOMWS6
Looks awesome. ....till I hear the rumors of the $2,700 price tag....I'm sorry but that's just nuts if that's what the price is going to be
Yes, unless your 'box is dog ringed (like a PPG conversion), or at least face plated, so one could then shift sequentially WITHOUT the clutch, this is little more than a VERY expensive accessory/conversation piece.
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dailydriver
Yes, unless your 'box is dog ringed (like a PPG conversion), or at least face plated, so one could then shift sequentially WITHOUT the clutch, this is little more than a VERY expensive accessory/conversation piece.
Any transmission with synchros would **** a brick with a shifter like this. Synchros can only move so quickly. Clutch or no clutch, this thing is worthless without face plating/dog rings.
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 79_T/A
Any transmission with synchros would **** a brick with a shifter like this. Synchros can only move so quickly. Clutch or no clutch, this thing is worthless without face plating/dog rings.
Ikeya make a few for Jap cars. They dont **** a brick.

It's still a mechanical linkage governed by how hard you move your hand. If it doesnt want to shift, it still wont shift. So it would take a very abusive driver to do the damage either way
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Old Apr 9, 2015 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Ikeya make a few for Jap cars. They dont **** a brick.

It's still a mechanical linkage governed by how hard you move your hand. If it doesnt want to shift, it still wont shift. So it would take a very abusive driver to do the damage either way
That being said, this system is still better suited for a dog-ring trans.

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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 04:11 AM
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Totally agree.

That said, Ikeya state on some theirs it is intended to be used with a synchro trans.
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 09:07 PM
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But I'm looking to faceplate my spare t56 so there would be a great advantage but for the price it's not a option
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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 04:45 PM
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I'm very intrigued by the S1 sequential shifter for use on my T56 Magnum. I currently have the stock Tremec shifter and frankly it is less than ideal for any kind of performance use. I constantly miss 3rd and hit 5th. From what I can tell, this sequential shifter would really be no different than shifting my Harley sequential gear box in street driving. It looks like from the video that neutral is located between 1st and 2nd like the Harley gearbox. However, I have to wonder if there is a problem with the release since they have not updated their Facebook page for several months.

I also notice that they also have an H pattern shifter which features a 5th gear lockout which I might also be interested in depending on the pricing.
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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TheJDMan
I'm very intrigued by the S1 sequential shifter for use on my T56 Magnum. I currently have the stock Tremec shifter and frankly it is less than ideal for any kind of performance use. I constantly miss 3rd and hit 5th. From what I can tell, this sequential shifter would really be no different than shifting my Harley sequential gear box in street driving. It looks like from the video that neutral is located between 1st and 2nd like the Harley gearbox. However, I have to wonder if there is a problem with the release since they have not updated their Facebook page for several months.

I also notice that they also have an H pattern shifter which features a 5th gear lockout which I might also be interested in depending on the pricing.
I think that if you used the S1 shifter with a synchronized transmission, you will have to be very careful not to shift too quickly. The S1 is probably best suited for a dog ring trans. Yes, it will eliminate the possibility of missing 3rd gear, but it introduces other issues. Besides, if the price is what they have stated, it is dead in the water. Very few people are going to pay $2000+ for a shifter.

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Old Aug 23, 2015 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Project GatTagO
I think that if you used the S1 shifter with a synchronized transmission, you will have to be very careful not to shift too quickly. The S1 is probably best suited for a dog ring trans. Yes, it will eliminate the possibility of missing 3rd gear, but it introduces other issues. Besides, if the price is what they have stated, it is dead in the water. Very few people are going to pay $2000+ for a shifter.

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Do the REAL sequential; Emcos, Hollingers, Quaifes, Sainzes, etc., or even the PPG T56 conversion come with shifters from the manufacturer??
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Old Aug 23, 2015 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dailydriver
Do the REAL sequential; Emcos, Hollingers, Quaifes, Sainzes, etc., or even the PPG T56 conversion come with shifters from the manufacturer??
I believe the Emco and the Holinger come with a shifter. I don't know about the others.

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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by dailydriver
Do the REAL sequential; Emcos, Hollingers, Quaifes, Sainzes, etc., or even the PPG T56 conversion come with shifters from the manufacturer??
They'd be pretty useless without a shifter.

But a shifter for a proper sequential is more or less just a lever that moves forwards and backwards.

Obviously if it's a universal box for various cars, there will be different linkage makeups from this lever to the small lever outside the box which then moves the drum which selects the gears. But the motion required is generally very small.

So whilst the lever itself is pretty universal in terms of what it does, as the box supplier may not know what vehicle it is being fitted to etc, you would have to assume the installer may need to do some fabrication.
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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Project GatTagO
I think that if you used the S1 shifter with a synchronized transmission, you will have to be very careful not to shift too quickly. The S1 is probably best suited for a dog ring trans. Yes, it will eliminate the possibility of missing 3rd gear, but it introduces other issues. Besides, if the price is what they have stated, it is dead in the water. Very few people are going to pay $2000+ for a shifter.

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I understand the concern about using the S1 shifter with a syncronized box but S1 states specifically that it works on a syncronized T56. Having said that, it is my understanding that the T56 Magnum uses a newer style improved syncronizer than the LT or LS T56. In any case it might be worth the effort to convert to a dog ring setup using the S1 shifter. The Harley transmission is a dog box with sequential shift and they work and live very well in street use. Based on my experience with my Harley I think a sequential setup in the car would be worth the effort/expense.
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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 06:39 PM
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Seems there may be some light at the end of the tunnel for this one, and it's a little cheaper than initial reports ?

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The price on these will be $2650 AUD which at the moment is just under 1900 USD .

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Okay, so this might have been covered but…
The load cell cuts the throttle for a second letting you shift without the clutch?
What would this do on a built t56 (Viper spec)? Would it still wear the gears?

Car is only 3000 lbs.
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Originally Posted by SydwayZ
Okay, so this might have been covered butÂ…
The load cell cuts the throttle for a second letting you shift without the clutch?
What would this do on a built t56 (Viper spec)? Would it still wear the gears?

Car is only 3000 lbs.
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Yes that's how it works. It may work for awhile on a fresh syncro trans, but it would kill the blocker rings at some point, probably pretty quickly. These are really designed for dogring/faceplated transmissions.
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Old Sep 18, 2015 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SydwayZ
Okay, so this might have been covered but…
The load cell cuts the throttle for a second letting you shift without the clutch?
What would this do on a built t56 (Viper spec)? Would it still wear the gears?

Car is only 3000 lbs.
– and please, no ******* responses.
No, the load cell only sends a signal that your hand has placed pressure on the stick in either direction.. Whatever controller you are using will determine the cut strategy, but it's normal to cut ignition.

And flat shifting on a synhcro trans will always carry the risk of some additional wear to the synchro teeth vs using the clutch
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