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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 09:26 PM
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Sup tech, feel like i need to rant.

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Installed the level one at 100k back in Jan '15, now at 109k. Since i've done so, the clutch has major chatter, im talking about those awkward moments when moving the car i.e reversing, going over speed bumps, driveways etc. Now my clutch fluid reservoir gets low every once in awhile and the hydraulic system is worse than it was before i installed, i get a sticky clutch when the reservoir gets low. Another problem, when im ready to drive i disengage the clutch and put gear in first or reverse and i notice the car moves a bit, also today i did a high rev after i disengaged the clutch and the ****** moved!, smelled burned clutch afterwards. and lastly i can hear. noise below the shifter when in neutral. If anyone can give me some direction as to what i can do to correct all this, please do! i am not satisfied with the clutch and wish i never installed.
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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 09:44 PM
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did you replace the slave when you put the new clutch in? sound like either your hydraulics arent up to the task anymore or you should have measured to see if you need to shim the slave.
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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 11:57 PM
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Your reservoir shouldn't be losing fluid, you have a hydraulic leak somewhere. I would start with that. Stock master is pretty crappy and even worse using aftermarket clutches with HD pressure plates. Keep that in mind.

Fix your hydraulic issue first, then worry about the clutch.

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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 11:12 AM
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Most likely a leak somewhere. Hydraulic issue.

To get rid of chatter try to do a hard launch.
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 11:30 AM
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The issues you're speaking about have nothing to do with the clutch. If the clutch isn't being released fully you're going to get the symptoms you are describing, especially if that fluid is getting on the friction surface.

The clutch cannot overcome hydraulic issues, those need to be addressed before you completely destroy the unit if you haven't already.

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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 11:38 AM
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Ha OP blames clutch when it's doesn't disengage. Do you have a tick master cylinder? If not I would recommend one once you fix your hydraulic issues.
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 11:44 AM
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I feel like all the posts I see on here are getting more and more stupid by the day.
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Zmg00camaross
Ha OP blames clutch when it's doesn't disengage. Do you have a tick master cylinder? If not I would recommend one once you fix your hydraulic issues.
I'm not mad at him, he obviously isn't fully versed on why/how things are affected by different parts in the clutch system, if he was the title of this thread and the initial post would be completely different.

That said, the OP can contact us and we'll walk him through all the necessary things to get it back to where he needs to be. My only fear is over a year and a half of driving the poor clutch this way I'm sure it's not in good shape... not to mention the transmission.
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 01:42 PM
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Clutch kit came with the slave so yes i did replace that. If the stock MC is crap then i'll upgrade . I'll also find the leak, ill try with dye and uv. I will do so and contact you guys at SNL.
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BEAST_WS6M6
Clutch kit came with the slave so yes i did replace that. If the stock MC is crap then i'll upgrade . I'll also find the leak, ill try with dye and uv. I will do so and contact you guys at SNL.
Did you measure the setup for a shim? If you're losing fluid something is leaking, that's where I'd start and go from there. I wouldn't just buy a master and assume that's going to fix it.
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SNLPerformance
Did you measure the setup for a shim? If you're losing fluid something is leaking, that's where I'd start and go from there. I wouldn't just buy a master and assume that's going to fix it.
Before purchasing the kit i learned that i wouldn't need a shim based on a thread i read created by one of the guys at tick, in a reply by someone at SNL said that monster clutches do not need a shim. here is the link. That being said i did not measure or purchase one.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/manual-tr...need-shim.html
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BEAST_WS6M6
Before purchasing the kit i learned that i wouldn't need a shim based on a thread i read created by one of the guys at tick, in a reply by someone at SNL said that monster clutches do not need a shim. here is the link. That being said i did not measure or purchase one.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/manual-tr...need-shim.html
That was a response years ago... that said, the instructions clearly state to measure for a shim to make sure you're not one of the rare cases that require one.

1 out of every 25 need a shim, sometimes the tolerances of the bell housing, engine, slave, and crank all stack against you and you have to run one.
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 03:45 PM
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I see, well I'll do the measuring, but given my odds i wouldn't doubt i need a shim. Thanks for responding
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 03:48 PM
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No worries.

Send me pics of the clutch once you pull it out. I'm sure there is damage considering the lack of release and possible fluid contamination.
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Old Jul 26, 2016 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SNLPerformance
That was a response years ago... that said, the instructions clearly state to measure for a shim to make sure you're not one of the rare cases that require one.

1 out of every 25 need a shim, sometimes the tolerances of the bell housing, engine, slave, and crank all stack against you and you have to run one.
I needed a shim for my Monster Level 3 lol.
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Old Jul 27, 2016 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Hardcoresoldier
I needed a shim for my Monster Level 3 lol.
Not sure what you're trying to say... we've sold thousands of Level 3's, it's not surprising that a few guys are going to say they've had to shim their setups.
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Old Jul 27, 2016 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SNLPerformance
Not sure what you're trying to say... we've sold thousands of Level 3's, it's not surprising that a few guys are going to say they've had to shim their setups.
I was simply saying that I needed one, that's all. Was very happy with my Monster Level 3. Was great for street driving and hooked great at the track.
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I might have to look into getting a monster clutch. Its nice to see positive dialogue between a company and their customers even when it starts out negatively. I have a Mcleod and am having some issues. I called them and there tech was completely uninterested in helping me and was condescending. I was't even a mad or complaining just want to try and troubleshoot my issue.
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Originally Posted by ranedoss27
I might have to look into getting a monster clutch. Its nice to see positive dialogue between a company and their customers even when it starts out negatively. I have a Mcleod and am having some issues. I called them and there tech was completely uninterested in helping me and was condescending. I was't even a mad or complaining just want to try and troubleshoot my issue.
Thanks for the post. We try to help our customers, and anyone else that needs it. We can help trouble shoot if you want. Feel free to post in here what issues you are having, or shoot me a PM.
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