LS7 Clutch Weight Concerns
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gotcha, just gotta figure out if i want to go stage 2 or 2+. not running radials yet for the strip and the car is a 5th gen w/ bolt ons. spec suggested the 2+
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Idk....all i can tell you is don't be skeered to drop some coin on a good light clutch. The ls7 clutch is cheap because it's junk.
Spec has a newer aluminum pressure plate option that might work well with a aluminum flywheel. Mantic has some nice stuff as does quarter master. Rps is probably top of the heap right now but really $. Alot of the more expensive clutches can be rebuilt saving $ in the long term or atleast reducing costs. Once you feel the responsiveness of a light clutch and the added acceleration you'll understand why you should spend a bit more.
Spec has a newer aluminum pressure plate option that might work well with a aluminum flywheel. Mantic has some nice stuff as does quarter master. Rps is probably top of the heap right now but really $. Alot of the more expensive clutches can be rebuilt saving $ in the long term or atleast reducing costs. Once you feel the responsiveness of a light clutch and the added acceleration you'll understand why you should spend a bit more.
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We took the 5.5 tilton out of my buddy's out of his 5gen and put it in his vette recently.....same clutch as in my fcar since about 07. What you do run into is different fittings on the lines from car to car if you use a different hydraulic release bearing like we do. So we adapt them around.
#24
Being scared (the word is ******* SCARED you baboon-*** faced retarded mongoloid, God you people are gay) to "drop some coin" and being ABLE to drop some coin are two different things. Many a assclown has forgotten that when responding to posts here, thereby giving useless advice. Maybe yours isn't, but you're being pretty narrow minded. Saying "no, you should get what I have because it's totally worth it" isn't going to be the correct response in every situation.
back on topic: the clutch i posted about (spec aluminum pp and fw) comes in under $900. if that is too rich for your blood then you can option steel pieces and get the price much lower.
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Being scared (the word is ******* SCARED you baboon-*** faced retarded mongoloid, God you people are gay) to "drop some coin" and being ABLE to drop some coin are two different things. Many a assclown has forgotten that when responding to posts here, thereby giving useless advice. Maybe yours isn't, but you're being pretty narrow minded. Saying "no, you should get what I have because it's totally worth it" isn't going to be the correct response in every situation.
It is worth it. I guess if you've never done it....and apparently you haven't then you wouldn't know.
In case you haven't noticed i recommended less expensive alternatives. Before I'd put a ls7 clutch in one i would just put a replacement ls1 clutch in and not gain that 6lb of rotating weight.. ...they can be had for less than a ls7 clutch if your budget is really that tight.
Who's the baboon-*** faced retarded mongoloid now?
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he is kind of right though, you gotta pay to play. i think the person who has to differentiate between if they are too scared to drop the coin, or if they can drop it but don't want to for 'xyz' reason, is you. so by telling everyone to generalize their comments in a way because some have the money while others do not is ****. whether you can or cannot spend the money isn't our problem, that's for you to decide. it is also on you to decide if you want to heed his advice, or pass on it.
back on topic: the clutch i posted about (spec aluminum pp and fw) comes in under $900. if that is too rich for your blood then you can option steel pieces and get the price much lower.
back on topic: the clutch i posted about (spec aluminum pp and fw) comes in under $900. if that is too rich for your blood then you can option steel pieces and get the price much lower.
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Someone is triggered.....lol
It is worth it. I guess if you've never done it....and apparently you haven't then you wouldn't know.
In case you haven't noticed i recommended less expensive alternatives. Before I'd put a ls7 clutch in one i would just put a replacement ls1 clutch in and not gain that 6lb of rotating weight.. ...they can be had for less than a ls7 clutch if your budget is really that tight.
Who's the baboon-*** faced retarded mongoloid now?
It is worth it. I guess if you've never done it....and apparently you haven't then you wouldn't know.
In case you haven't noticed i recommended less expensive alternatives. Before I'd put a ls7 clutch in one i would just put a replacement ls1 clutch in and not gain that 6lb of rotating weight.. ...they can be had for less than a ls7 clutch if your budget is really that tight.
Who's the baboon-*** faced retarded mongoloid now?
Again, I don't give a ****. And neither does the OP bcasue he hasn't come back and it's been three weeks.
Once you become a baboon-*** faced retarded mongoloid you will always be a baboon-*** faced retarded mongoloid. Therefor sir - you are.
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It's worth it to who ever is seeking better acceleration and goin easier on their syncros.
Well remember i called you a baboon-*** faced retarded mongoloid to....I'm rubber your glue
Sometimes the best info evolves after op's leave
Well remember i called you a baboon-*** faced retarded mongoloid to....I'm rubber your glue
Sometimes the best info evolves after op's leave
#30
Being scared to "drop some coin" and being ABLE to drop some coin are two different things. Many a assclown has forgotten that when responding to posts here, thereby giving useless advice. Maybe yours isn't, but you're being pretty narrow minded. Saying "no, you should get what I have because it's totally worth it" isn't going to be the correct response in every situation.
its your choice to determine if you can drop the coin, or can't. if you can't then don't. it's also your choice on what parts to buy, so if the parts he suggests don't jive with you then don't buy them!
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This whole baboon-*** faced thing has gote outta sorts a bit. Last time i was at the zoo i seen a bitch like that in the cage and i was like " Daaammmnnn girl look at chou" i ready to jump in there and chase down that swolled up red ***.
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Not everyone's vehicle lives at 6000+ RPMs, and not everyone's vehicle is a dedicated track car. Just because the LS7 clutch doesn't suit your needs doesn't automatically mean it is junk and it certainly doesn't warrant you telling someone that they need to run out and buy the lightest clutch they can find.
You are correct in that buying a clutch based on its horsepower rating is silly. It's almost as foolish as buying a clutch based on its weight.
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yo comprendo perfecto hombre and i couldn't care less bout you either sugar! you may not have told him to generalize, but you did tell him to alter his response because there are people on this forum who are scared to drop the coin, or can't.
its your choice to determine if you can drop the coin, or can't. if you can't then don't. it's also your choice on what parts to buy, so if the parts he suggests don't jive with you then don't buy them!
its your choice to determine if you can drop the coin, or can't. if you can't then don't. it's also your choice on what parts to buy, so if the parts he suggests don't jive with you then don't buy them!
Fng relax D.
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OMG those asses are horrifying to look at.
How do I tell a story that is funny when it's kind of race related without being racist? Cuz I have a zoo story involving monkey's and a brief conversation about said monkey's between an African american couple that makes me smile to this day. I did or said nothing, the woman did though and mine and my wife's eyes just about popped out of our heads. It was brief yet hysterical and I had to scamper away before laughing audibly. You gotta see some of the **** at the free admission day at the Bronx Zoo. Only in NY, only in the Bronx.
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I understand the performance advantages. I also understand the trade-offs with a lighter clutch. Just because I can understand the merits and limitations of a factory clutch doesn't permit you to insult my intelligence with baseless assumptions.
Yeah, I'm sure someone with mild modifications on a street car is going to notice that difference. But sure, the clutch is only good for dump trucks.
Yep. Especially for all of those street cars spending the majority of their time in 2,000-4,000 RPM range. Lots of high RPM benefits there.
Actually, the heavier clutch allows for easier starts due to more reciprocating weight. GM has its own torque management system on vehicles, and it doesn't involve the clutch.
Not everyone's vehicle lives at 6000+ RPMs, and not everyone's vehicle is a dedicated track car. Just because the LS7 clutch doesn't suit your needs doesn't automatically mean it is junk and it certainly doesn't warrant you telling someone that they need to run out and buy the lightest clutch they can find.
You are correct in that buying a clutch based on its horsepower rating is silly. It's almost as foolish as buying a clutch based on its weight.
Yeah, I'm sure someone with mild modifications on a street car is going to notice that difference. But sure, the clutch is only good for dump trucks.
Yep. Especially for all of those street cars spending the majority of their time in 2,000-4,000 RPM range. Lots of high RPM benefits there.
Actually, the heavier clutch allows for easier starts due to more reciprocating weight. GM has its own torque management system on vehicles, and it doesn't involve the clutch.
Not everyone's vehicle lives at 6000+ RPMs, and not everyone's vehicle is a dedicated track car. Just because the LS7 clutch doesn't suit your needs doesn't automatically mean it is junk and it certainly doesn't warrant you telling someone that they need to run out and buy the lightest clutch they can find.
You are correct in that buying a clutch based on its horsepower rating is silly. It's almost as foolish as buying a clutch based on its weight.
If you knew the advantages then you wouldn't be questioning them. Trade offs? What trade offs? You mean the trade off that keeps your 4cyl honda dx from taking off with a factory 30lb clutch.
On milder cars the weight is even more apparent.
If you're not shifting your high performance car over 4000 rpm once in a while you're doin it wrong.
The heavy clutch seems to coinside wuth the electronics. They can control the rate of engine acceleration with mass on the flywheel....not completely tho. This is where the electronics come in. The new lt1 has a even heavier clutch at 66lb.........you may as well recommend that to op.
The ls7 clutch is a steaming pile of poo released from a baboon ***
I would rather see ratings for clutches based on rpm and weight/moi
OMG those asses are horrifying to look at.
How do I tell a story that is funny when it's kind of race related without being racist? Cuz I have a zoo story involving monkey's and a brief conversation about said monkey's between an African american couple that makes me smile to this day. I did or said nothing, the woman did though and mine and my wife's eyes just about popped out of our heads. It was brief yet hysterical and I had to scamper away before laughing audibly. You gotta see some of the **** at the free admission day at the Bronx Zoo. Only in NY, only in the Bronx.
How do I tell a story that is funny when it's kind of race related without being racist? Cuz I have a zoo story involving monkey's and a brief conversation about said monkey's between an African american couple that makes me smile to this day. I did or said nothing, the woman did though and mine and my wife's eyes just about popped out of our heads. It was brief yet hysterical and I had to scamper away before laughing audibly. You gotta see some of the **** at the free admission day at the Bronx Zoo. Only in NY, only in the Bronx.
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^^^^^I am too, but talking about monkey's and African americans can get a bit dicey. I'll hold on to that little gem for a while.
Just as long as we now now I am the undisputed king of extreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeme fonts.
For what it's worth, I bought a monster 3 (with light weight flywheel) a while back and now I don't want it, haven't installed it. I need some slippage. Though driving a light switch clutch on the street does make my chest and ***** swell slightly. Good times. Baboon *****.
Just as long as we now now I am the undisputed king of extreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeme fonts.
For what it's worth, I bought a monster 3 (with light weight flywheel) a while back and now I don't want it, haven't installed it. I need some slippage. Though driving a light switch clutch on the street does make my chest and ***** swell slightly. Good times. Baboon *****.
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I daily my 5.5" tilton in the C6. I have to say my car drives very nice in normal conditions and when its time to party a whap of the throttle sends the tach to 6k (it cant keep up with the engine free reving) down shift and time to roll out. Now with that POS LS7 clutch that used to be in it you could mash the gas to the floor down shift prior to releasing the throttle and it would be a good 4500rpm if you were lucky and well you were ready to roll at much slower rate of acceleration. I have done a lot of things and as far as a wear item to be replaced to gain performance there is nothing better then a light(er) clutch. The comment about using the clutch for torque management cracks me up. With the traction control on I can blow the tires off my car and it takes seconds for it to even function now lol