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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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an LS1 M6 should be able to chirp 2nd w/o much effort right? mine wont even do it when i shift at redline....but it WILL do it when i downshift into 2nd going around 40mph. whats the problem here? it's not the driver, i've been able to do it in all my other cars.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 05:21 PM
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sticky tires maybe?
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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shift faster
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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clutch is shot
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 05:58 PM
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Chirping the tires when DOWNshifting?!?!? That sounds very stupid and painful to your driveline. Match revs or dont downshift.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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Everything plays a part i.e. weather, tires, etc., but your clutch has to be weak too if it's OEM on a 2000.

I remember totally roasting second and chirping third pretty easily on cold & dry winter days when my ride was new

~60K miles later, I finally replaced my clutch with the Z06 setup 'cause my stock one died. The fist time I got into it, the roads were a little damp and the rearend came around for a visit when I hit 3rd on the highway onramp and I wasn't even near the redline It caught me by surprise but it was pretty cool to see how much torque to the wheels I've regained.

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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 07:03 PM
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so what do ya'll suggest....Z06 or stage 2? i dont have amny wild plans for the car...just bolt ons and maybe N20
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 08:16 PM
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i can shirp 4th or 5th with street tires ..
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Durien
i can shirp 4th or 5th with street tires ..
thats what i was thinkin

my car bone stock only would do it sometimes cause the clutch was slipping under hard load like that, i put in a mcleoud single disk and i could chirp 3rd no problem, still bone stock
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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 02:13 AM
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mine doesn't slip yet, it just feels like all the power isnt gettin through to the rear when i shift hard into 2nd.
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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 04:09 AM
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I'd go with a spec3, plans with cars ALWAYS get bigger. I have a 2 and really wish I had a 3 now. You can feel a big difference just with a 2, my buddy has a 3 and it feels even better, and it's streetable.
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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 04:20 AM
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thats odd im pretty much stock and when i hit second i get really sideways to the point it wants to do a doughnut and 3rd soins a little. What size tires do you have on the back and what brand ?
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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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im runnin 245/50/16 kuhmo ecstas
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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The Kuhmos are not really great for hooking up so it definately has to be a weak point in the clutch IMO
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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i've been having the same problem..bought the car in jan and could never chirp second on a 01 ss...i'm guessing it still has the original clutch. I've always thought it was weird..cause i could chirp second in my old focus...and I could chirp third in my sentra spec v. I guess i'll find out if my car sucks when i get s new clutch.
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 08:42 PM
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Stick a nice h/c combo on there and chirping anything won't be a problem.
I could sometimes chirp 3rd 4th with stocker. dont downshift and make your car chirp. that is just ignorant.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 01:49 AM
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i had the same problem when my tranny mount was going bad i change it to polly mount and now i can chirp third. do u have a stock tranny mount?
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 07:22 AM
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Stock 65,000 mile clutch, 275/40/17 tires, and I can chirp 2nd all day long, bone stock.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 09:20 AM
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im assuming i have the stock tranny mount....never heard of anyone replacing theirs tho and it resulting in better shifts.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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with the stock tranny mount on an m6 hard shift make it go week. thats what happen to me at around 30K so i replaced it and the shifts feel more solid less tranny movement. i am not saying thats whats wrong but something to check for.
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