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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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What the hell was the thought process behind skip shift? How will me going from 1st to 4th help gas mileage. As far as im concerned its the most useless idea gm has put out to date

theres nothing like a bogging down into 4th when you are out for a cruise
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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It takes 1 resistor, some electrical tape, and a zip tie to fix it.
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agreed, but i just cant rationalize the point of it
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It was a cheap way of getting around a gas guzzler tax.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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CAGS - Its there so when you are making a turn and casualy shift 2nd you are left looking like a tool trying to make up your mind whether or not to go to 4th or back into first gear while cars are pileing up on your ***....... am i Speaking from experience???
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Originally Posted by smokin2002
CAGS - Its there so when you are making a turn and casualy shift 2nd you are left looking like a tool trying to make up your mind whether or not to go to 4th or back into first gear while cars are pileing up on your ***....... am i Speaking from experience???



I couldnt have said it better myself...
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Originally Posted by smokin2002
CAGS - Its there so when you are making a turn and casualy shift 2nd you are left looking like a tool trying to make up your mind whether or not to go to 4th or back into first gear while cars are pileing up on your ***....... am i Speaking from experience???

indeed
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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Iwas lucky ,mine never worked.I shift from first to second with the shift light on.I guess the servo isn't working and i'm not fixing it.
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i usually shift it into third anyways, although i have done the !cags mod too. not often do i go straight from 1st to 2nd and not punching it.
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I'm almost certain it blocks you out of 2nd AND 3rd when it's working.
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Originally Posted by mikerulzu
I'm almost certain it blocks you out of 2nd AND 3rd when it's working.
yep yep i turned that **** off when i got hptuners
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I really have never understood the complaint. I still have mine and it really has never bothered me. I shift 1st to 4th everytime unless I'm racing no bog or anything. I have had a few buddies ride with me and say my car reacts better so maybe I got a car that like it... Get great gas mileage also.
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Before I got my CAGS module, I just waited until the SKIP SHIFT light went out before I shifted. If it meant holding first for a little longer and few rpms, so be it. Most of the time (99%), it just flickers so fast then it's gone because I'm always giving it a lot of gas to hear the GMMG.
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There are 4 or 5 conditions that have be met(certain speed for certain time) for cags to turn on. I don't have them memorized, but they are there for a reason. I'm not a fan but in a stock car, they improve gas mileage by keeping the engine in low rpms when you are forced to shift into 4th.
Cars with mods that require higher mph for 4th gear to be driveable, are tuned anyway and cags is deleted.
But I still think smokin said it best
Originally Posted by smokin2002
CAGS - Its there so when you are making a turn and casualy shift 2nd you are left looking like a tool trying to make up your mind whether or not to go to 4th or back into first gear while cars are pileing up on your ***....... am i Speaking from experience???
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The skip control parameters ( ALL must be present to activate) are:
1)Temp. = the car must be warmed up
2)Vehicle speed reset= the car is at 0 mph and accelerating from a stop.
3)Vehicle actual speed= within a mph window (not active above/ below approx 3-5mph)
4) Throttle position= at some upper throttle pointthe system will not activate.
Ways to drive around the system:
A) Never actually have a 0 speed( rolling stops can be a problem)
B) Shift late( after the high parameter speed)
C) Burry the throttle.
Actually a combination of the above will result in very few skips but normal driving conditions will still cause a few.
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