Teach me how to speed shift.....
04-10-2007, 11:22 PM
#23
Originally Posted by 5_02ls1
powershifting=wot shifts
speed shifting= clutchless shifts
speed shifting= clutchless shifts
04-10-2007, 11:51 PM
#24
Originally Posted by 5_02ls1
speed shifting= clutchless shifts
Originally Posted by Ripper415
clutchless shifts?? wtf...no...speed shifting is not taking your foot totally off the gas before depressing the clutch all the way and also not waiting until the clutch is fully up until you start giving it more gas.
Powershifting is using the clutch as fast as you can to tag the gears while never lifting the pedal at all.
Speedshifting is letting off the throttle, press in clutch, switch gear, let out the clutch and back on throttle, all done as fast as possible!
04-11-2007, 12:04 AM
#25
Originally Posted by BriancWS6
No
No
Powershifting is using the clutch as fast as you can to tag the gears while never lifting the pedal at all.
Speedshifting is letting off the throttle, press in clutch, switch gear, let out the clutch and back on throttle, all done as fast as possible!
No
Powershifting is using the clutch as fast as you can to tag the gears while never lifting the pedal at all.
Speedshifting is letting off the throttle, press in clutch, switch gear, let out the clutch and back on throttle, all done as fast as possible!
hmmm....so many different opinions...but i think im going to agree with this one
04-12-2007, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Ripper415
clutchless shifts?? wtf...no...speed shifting is not taking your foot totally off the gas before depressing the clutch all the way and also not waiting until the clutch is fully up until you start giving it more gas.
as for the op just practice on an old beater before you **** up your tranny .
04-12-2007, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BriancWS6
No
No
Powershifting is using the clutch as fast as you can to tag the gears while never lifting the pedal at all.
Speedshifting is letting off the throttle, press in clutch, switch gear, let out the clutch and back on throttle, all done as fast as possible!
No
Powershifting is using the clutch as fast as you can to tag the gears while never lifting the pedal at all.
Speedshifting is letting off the throttle, press in clutch, switch gear, let out the clutch and back on throttle, all done as fast as possible!
however everyone is entitled to there opinon
04-12-2007, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 5_02ls1
ask any old school racer what a speedshift is or a truck driver it is shifting without the clutch you have to know whayt the hell you are doing to acomplish it though
however everyone is entitled to there opinon
however everyone is entitled to there opinon
04-12-2007, 08:42 PM
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Here is a video of me power shifting to a 10.46 @ 131
Stock T56 and CARTEK Clutch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XedpZ_BkG4w
Not sure if it helps, but I guess it shows what it looked like..
Stock T56 and CARTEK Clutch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XedpZ_BkG4w
Not sure if it helps, but I guess it shows what it looked like..
04-12-2007, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01
Here is a video of me power shifting to a 10.46 @ 131
Stock T56 and CARTEK Clutch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XedpZ_BkG4w
Not sure if it helps, but I guess it shows what it looked like..
Stock T56 and CARTEK Clutch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XedpZ_BkG4w
Not sure if it helps, but I guess it shows what it looked like..
I think thats whats being ask here.
04-12-2007, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Optimal
And you did it how.....
I think thats whats being ask here.
I think thats whats being ask here.
Honestly its hard to say cause I don't really think about it.
I never let off the throttle on that pass. My CARTEK clutch has their adjustable master so the pedal is designed to engage/disengage right at the top of the pedal travel. So my right foot stays planted to the floor, wile I just barely kick the clutch pedal to disengage/engage the clutch wile I simultaneously pull the shifter.
That is the best way I can describe it.
04-12-2007, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01
Oh... True, You don't really see my feet.
Honestly its hard to say cause I don't really think about it.
I never let off the throttle on that pass. My CARTEK clutch has their adjustable master so the pedal is designed to engage/disengage right at the top of the pedal travel. So my right foot stays planted to the floor, wile I just barely kick the clutch pedal to disengage/engage the clutch wile I simultaneously pull the shifter.
That is the best way I can describe it.
Honestly its hard to say cause I don't really think about it.
I never let off the throttle on that pass. My CARTEK clutch has their adjustable master so the pedal is designed to engage/disengage right at the top of the pedal travel. So my right foot stays planted to the floor, wile I just barely kick the clutch pedal to disengage/engage the clutch wile I simultaneously pull the shifter.
That is the best way I can describe it.
I know with my stock clutch I have to go about half way in before I can make a shift. While my foot is on the way in, I will be pulling down (for second), and when I start moving into second gear I drop the clutch.
It may not be perfect by any means, but for what I have I don't know how to be much faster. I know in the last 2-3 weeks since I went racing I have got much better with shifts doing this kind of shifting.
Also, just a question... How are people going from 2nd to 1st... A. Wont the transmission keep you from doing this? and B..... Can you not feel it?
I know mine will NOT go into first gear unless I am doing below 30mph...
04-12-2007, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Optimal
Also, just a question... How are people going from 2nd to 1st... A. Wont the transmission keep you from doing this? and B..... Can you not feel it?
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04-12-2007, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Optimal
So in essence its really a matter of having a great clutch to perform something like this.
I know with my stock clutch I have to go about half way in before I can make a shift. While my foot is on the way in, I will be pulling down (for second), and when I start moving into second gear I drop the clutch.
It may not be perfect by any means, but for what I have I don't know how to be much faster. I know in the last 2-3 weeks since I went racing I have got much better with shifts doing this kind of shifting.
Also, just a question... How are people going from 2nd to 1st... A. Wont the transmission keep you from doing this? and B..... Can you not feel it?
I know mine will NOT go into first gear unless I am doing below 30mph...
I know with my stock clutch I have to go about half way in before I can make a shift. While my foot is on the way in, I will be pulling down (for second), and when I start moving into second gear I drop the clutch.
It may not be perfect by any means, but for what I have I don't know how to be much faster. I know in the last 2-3 weeks since I went racing I have got much better with shifts doing this kind of shifting.
Also, just a question... How are people going from 2nd to 1st... A. Wont the transmission keep you from doing this? and B..... Can you not feel it?
I know mine will NOT go into first gear unless I am doing below 30mph...
To answer your question, no the transmission will not lock out 1st gear. When in the "heat of the race" people push forward, with a stock/cheap/crappy shifter that does not have enough spring to push the lever to the center in a short enough time, the shifter gets pushed strait ahead, into the 1st gear gate. Clutch comes up, engine goes to 9000rpm, rod bolts or pushrods or connecting rods say F U and you buy a new shortblock. LOL Or at least new pushrods.
04-12-2007, 09:18 PM
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My B&M hates 3rd gear, but I never go into the wrong gear, I was just wondering how people did it cause mine tells me to go to hell if I try to go into the "wrong gear" lol. I would like to get a Pro 5.0 but i'd like to drive a car with it first...
and WS6TransAM01 (O.O....) I agree, when I was racing I was so excited I kept flooring it off the line and sitting there spinning... spinning... spinning.... letting off getting angry.... and going!
But i've only be to the track one, on street tires at that.. It was a big thrill, and I can see how people would go into the wrong gear if the shifter does not keep them out... Adrenaline can get the best of ya!
and WS6TransAM01 (O.O....) I agree, when I was racing I was so excited I kept flooring it off the line and sitting there spinning... spinning... spinning.... letting off getting angry.... and going!
But i've only be to the track one, on street tires at that.. It was a big thrill, and I can see how people would go into the wrong gear if the shifter does not keep them out... Adrenaline can get the best of ya!