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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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powershifting=wot shifts
speed shifting= clutchless shifts
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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how does one speed shift with a sychro'd tranny?
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 5_02ls1
powershifting=wot shifts
speed shifting= clutchless shifts
clutchless shifts?? wtf...no...speed shifting is not taking your foot totally off the gas before depressing the clutch all the way and also not waiting until the clutch is fully up until you start giving it more gas.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 5_02ls1
speed shifting= clutchless shifts
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clutchless shifts?? wtf...no...speed shifting is not taking your foot totally off the gas before depressing the clutch all the way and also not waiting until the clutch is fully up until you start giving it more gas.
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Powershifting is using the clutch as fast as you can to tag the gears while never lifting the pedal at all.

Speedshifting is letting off the throttle, press in clutch, switch gear, let out the clutch and back on throttle, all done as fast as possible!
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by BriancWS6
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Powershifting is using the clutch as fast as you can to tag the gears while never lifting the pedal at all.

Speedshifting is letting off the throttle, press in clutch, switch gear, let out the clutch and back on throttle, all done as fast as possible!

hmmm....so many different opinions...but i think im going to agree with this one
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 04:17 AM
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Try this http://dodds.cc/chad/garage/drag_strip/powershift.htm
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 68Goatboy
hmmm....so many different opinions...but i think im going to agree with this one
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Ripper415
clutchless shifts?? wtf...no...speed shifting is not taking your foot totally off the gas before depressing the clutch all the way and also not waiting until the clutch is fully up until you start giving it more gas.
well here in redneckville what i said is 100% true but im sure you guys can shift without the clutch.

as for the op just practice on an old beater before you **** up your tranny .
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 04:49 PM
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Powershifting is using the clutch as fast as you can to tag the gears while never lifting the pedal at all.

Speedshifting is letting off the throttle, press in clutch, switch gear, let out the clutch and back on throttle, all done as fast as possible!
ask any old school racer what a speedshift is or a truck driver it is shifting without the clutch you have to know whayt the hell you are doing to acomplish it though
however everyone is entitled to there opinon
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 5_02ls1
ask any old school racer what a speedshift is or a truck driver it is shifting without the clutch you have to know whayt the hell you are doing to acomplish it though
however everyone is entitled to there opinon
i have raced a few old school cars and i am a truck driver. you can shift without the clutch under "no-load". but not WFO. not with a tranny w/sychros.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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Here is a video of me power shifting to a 10.46 @ 131

Stock T56 and CARTEK Clutch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XedpZ_BkG4w

Not sure if it helps, but I guess it shows what it looked like..
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01
Here is a video of me power shifting to a 10.46 @ 131

Stock T56 and CARTEK Clutch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XedpZ_BkG4w

Not sure if it helps, but I guess it shows what it looked like..
And you did it how.....

I think thats whats being ask here.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XedpZ_BkG4w"

Damn, that's gettin er done!!!

Nice job, the rpms hardly drop when you shift
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Optimal
And you did it how.....

I think thats whats being ask here.
Oh... True, You don't really see my feet.

Honestly its hard to say cause I don't really think about it.

I never let off the throttle on that pass. My CARTEK clutch has their adjustable master so the pedal is designed to engage/disengage right at the top of the pedal travel. So my right foot stays planted to the floor, wile I just barely kick the clutch pedal to disengage/engage the clutch wile I simultaneously pull the shifter.

That is the best way I can describe it.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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When i get my built tranny i will be doing some crazy shifting. Put them A4's to shame.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01
Oh... True, You don't really see my feet.

Honestly its hard to say cause I don't really think about it.

I never let off the throttle on that pass. My CARTEK clutch has their adjustable master so the pedal is designed to engage/disengage right at the top of the pedal travel. So my right foot stays planted to the floor, wile I just barely kick the clutch pedal to disengage/engage the clutch wile I simultaneously pull the shifter.

That is the best way I can describe it.
So in essence its really a matter of having a great clutch to perform something like this.

I know with my stock clutch I have to go about half way in before I can make a shift. While my foot is on the way in, I will be pulling down (for second), and when I start moving into second gear I drop the clutch.

It may not be perfect by any means, but for what I have I don't know how to be much faster. I know in the last 2-3 weeks since I went racing I have got much better with shifts doing this kind of shifting.

Also, just a question... How are people going from 2nd to 1st... A. Wont the transmission keep you from doing this? and B..... Can you not feel it?

I know mine will NOT go into first gear unless I am doing below 30mph...
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Optimal
Also, just a question... How are people going from 2nd to 1st... A. Wont the transmission keep you from doing this? and B..... Can you not feel it?

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Get a pro5.0 shifter and you wont have to wory about missing gears anymore.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Optimal
So in essence its really a matter of having a great clutch to perform something like this.

I know with my stock clutch I have to go about half way in before I can make a shift. While my foot is on the way in, I will be pulling down (for second), and when I start moving into second gear I drop the clutch.

It may not be perfect by any means, but for what I have I don't know how to be much faster. I know in the last 2-3 weeks since I went racing I have got much better with shifts doing this kind of shifting.

Also, just a question... How are people going from 2nd to 1st... A. Wont the transmission keep you from doing this? and B..... Can you not feel it?

I know mine will NOT go into first gear unless I am doing below 30mph...
All it takes is practice, there is no snake oil that will make you shift well, no explanation, just try try and try again.

To answer your question, no the transmission will not lock out 1st gear. When in the "heat of the race" people push forward, with a stock/cheap/crappy shifter that does not have enough spring to push the lever to the center in a short enough time, the shifter gets pushed strait ahead, into the 1st gear gate. Clutch comes up, engine goes to 9000rpm, rod bolts or pushrods or connecting rods say F U and you buy a new shortblock. LOL Or at least new pushrods.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by brad8266
Get a pro5.0 shifter and you wont have to wory about missing gears anymore.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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My B&M hates 3rd gear, but I never go into the wrong gear, I was just wondering how people did it cause mine tells me to go to hell if I try to go into the "wrong gear" lol. I would like to get a Pro 5.0 but i'd like to drive a car with it first...

and WS6TransAM01 (O.O....) I agree, when I was racing I was so excited I kept flooring it off the line and sitting there spinning... spinning... spinning.... letting off getting angry.... and going!

But i've only be to the track one, on street tires at that.. It was a big thrill, and I can see how people would go into the wrong gear if the shifter does not keep them out... Adrenaline can get the best of ya!
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