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Old 10-22-2007, 04:08 AM
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Default Suitable Clutch For Drifting?

I doubt anyone here would have first hand experience of a good drift clutch for the LS1 cars, but I thought I'd ask anyway.
Old 10-22-2007, 10:14 AM
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What kind of power are you currently making? This will have a great effect on the clutch that would be best suited for your needs. Let me know. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by SPEC-01
What kind of power are you currently making? This will have a great effect on the clutch that would be best suited for your needs.
It's not something I may put in my car as I have no idea how streetable it may be. I'm just looking into what characteristics would make up a good drift clutch as it's so different from a drag racing clutch. (I think)

For drifting you might need to be able to clutch kick at say 80 mph to break the rear tires loose, but obviously you DON'T want that in a drag car.

Based on my own use of only 2 different clutches I would say a heavier flywheel is more likely to break the tires loose than a lighter one. Also a clutch that is off/on as far as grip should be good as well to snap the tires loose, although it may add difficulty in starting the car from a stop.

I'm also thinking a clutch with a one piece hub, no springs, will be better as it won't absorb and disipate the energy of the clutch engagement, which should help snap the tires loose.

Pretty much the opposite of any typical street clutch. I know Rhys Millan had a GTO drift car and he used an Exedy Twin Disc, but it's like 2 grand. Way out of my price range. I can't think of any other cars with the LSx engine that drifts.

BTW, my engine is mostly stock. So say 350hp. LT headers and a baby cam will come shortly.
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Throw in a spec stage 5,complete on/off mode, no springs with an iron disk. Perfect for snapping action and breaking tires free.

BTW drifting is :
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Originally Posted by brad8266

BTW drifting is :
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It's funny you two can recognize something gay, as I can't. Maybe that says something about yourself.

Seriously, the equipment and demands of the sport are pretty unique. I'd like to know what makes a good drifting clutch. I'm only hypothisizing above.
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Originally Posted by JasonWW
It's funny you two can recognize something gay, as I can't. Maybe that says something about yourself.

Seriously, the equipment and demands of the sport are pretty unique. I'd like to know what makes a good drifting clutch. I'm only hypothisizing above.
LOL Call it what you want your car doesnt even run right now.

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Yeah, got a damn Rav4 rental.
I was thinking of maybe slipping another clutch in it since the engine will be out. I've heard the Spec 4 is on/off and is somewhat OK on the street. Not too pricey either.
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Originally Posted by JasonWW
It's funny you two can recognize something gay, as I can't. Maybe that says something about yourself.

Seriously, the equipment and demands of the sport are pretty unique. I'd like to know what makes a good drifting clutch. I'm only hypothisizing above.


Anyway I gave you a good respnse on what clutch would work well for what your desires. A stage 4 would work too as its on/off.
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Originally Posted by JasonWW
Yeah, got a damn Rav4 rental. I was thinking of maybe slipping another clutch in it since the engine will be out. I've heard the Spec 4 is on/off and is somewhat OK on the street. Not too pricey either.
If you want to beat the crap out of it textralia exo skel.
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Originally Posted by brad8266


Anyway I gave you a good respnse on what clutch would work well for what your desires.
Are you just guessing? Have you used the spec 5?
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Originally Posted by JasonWW
Are you just guessing? Have you used the spec 5?
Hell no I dont have one of those in my car, too not streetable for my taste. Its an iron disk unsprung. Its going to be on/off, not much in between. I have never personally tried drifting with a clutch like that, but then again most cars with clutchs like that are used at the strip.
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i have a spec 5 in my car and its fine on the street.i can slip it when i need to from a stop.took some getting used to but no biggie.and hell i could clutch kick with a spec 3 that would put the back end out so a 5 would def do it.
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Something that u can beat the hell out of with numerous clutch kicks... I wouldnt recommend spec for it... There clutches seem to be **** in the import world .. Ive always heard and seen people bitching about how there spec didnt last that long drifting and so on.. I use the rps 6 puc max.. U can beat the holy **** out of it clutch kit the **** out of it and it never wore out .. I sold the car first but that was on a sr20..
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ROFLMAO their cheapest clutch is $1100.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
i have a spec 5 in my car and its fine on the street.i can slip it when i need to from a stop.took some getting used to but no biggie.and hell i could clutch kick with a spec 3 that would put the back end out so a 5 would def do it.
Very interesting. I never heard of someone using the 5 on the street. Let me ask you, did you ever downshift with it? I'm wondering if downshifts with these gripy clutches have to be spot on RPM matched to avoid bucking the car.
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LOL well you aren't going to be drifting **** at 80MPH. Not if your asking these questions anyway. No offense...

You don't need anything more than a Spec 3, and use a stock flywheel.

It's not rocket science, and you're not making crazy power.

Theres much to know about REAL drifting in one of these cars. If you're just going to be out sliding around in big parking lots, you're WAY over thinking the process.

Again, no offense.

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Originally Posted by BAD *** TA WS6
LOL well you aren't going to be drifting **** at 80MPH.
****, I can't break my tires loose on a 1-2 shift. My crappy C5 Z06 clutch just aggravates me. Besides, I'm not really into drifting, I just want to know more about certain clutch types that seem to fit my driving style. Drifting seems to be pretty close to my style. I like to downshift, so I wonder if that will be a problem with a grippy clutch.

Do you agree that the heavier stock flywheel is going to help break the tires loose compared to a lighter flywheel?

Are you talking about the Spec 3 or the 3+?
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Oh man, I just ran across this crazy drifting vid. Guy is drifting a half million dollar Porche Carrera GT through traffic! Jeeeeezus Christ!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7DVe9oIhic
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Jason has silly threads.

I'm waiting for the "Has anyone built an adjustable exhaust system out of soda cans?"


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