Joe Kizzire

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2MCHPWR:
<strong> joe, by any chance, do you have the part numbers for all those clutch components you recommended?
best place to purchase?
thanx!
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i got this from RAM's website, but which ones did you use?
VDS system with 300 series disc 4021550T
VDS system with 6000 series disc 4021550
VDS system with 900 series disc 4021550N
VDS system w/ 300 disc alum. fw 4022550T
VDS system w/ 6000 disc alum. fw 4022550
VDS system w/ 900 disc alum. fw 4022550N
Adjustable hydraulics for LS1 :
Adjustable master cylinder - F-body 510
Adjustable master cylinder - Corvette 515
Slave cylinder/release bearing - F-body 520
Slave cylinder/release bearing - Corvette 525 </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">First I use a Mcleod master cylinder and a GM slave.... I can not speak for the Ram m/c as I have never used one.

These are the Ram Numbers for the parts I use... This is not the VDS system....

pressure plate part# 402
clutch disk part# 910
flywheel part# 1550

You will also need some pressure plate to flywheel bolts as they are different from the stock pieces...

1dirtyZ

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and remeber , you cant use the 900 series disk with the stock flywheeel.

Stick only

Tim98 - you experienced the ultimate clutch setup for that one pass - where the clutch is running on the ragged edge of slipping is usually where the best performance is achieved! Unfortunately we can't run like that all the time or they would call us PRO STOCK, where the clutch comes out after every pass <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

ratio411

Where's the best source for Ram parts?
In price and selection...
Thanks
Dave

Joe Kizzire

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by ratio411:
<strong> Where's the best source for Ram parts?
In price and selection...
Thanks
Dave </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Futral Motorsports and Rapid Motorsports both carry Ram products... They are both advertizers on this site.

Joe Kizzire

You can bleed the m/c in the car... Just make sure when you do that no air will be pushed into the system when you reverse pressure fill it.

HitchHiker

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 1dirtyZ:
<strong> and remeber , you cant use the 900 series disk with the stock flywheeel. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not true exactly. You can't use the 910/915 disk, you CAN use the 980 disk, it's specifically made to use with the stock FW.

1dirtyZ

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i thought all 900 series disks where not compatible with the stock fly wheel??
which disk out of the 900 series is better when it comes holding power?

Gimp98TNT

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Hey Joe would it be ok to bleed the MC while it was in the car?

I'm also going to cut a hole in my bellhousing, but how about building a small scoop to keep it cool while going down the track/on the street.

BTW thanks for all the great info. Great post. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

Joe Kizzire

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 1dirtyZ:
<strong> i thought all 900 series disks where not compatible with the stock fly wheel??
which disk out of the 900 series is better when it comes holding power? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The 910 has the most holding power. The 980 has an organic surface on the flywheel side and syntered iron on the pressure plate side. This combination enables it to be used with the stock flywheel and retain good street manners while loosing some of its ability to hold ie... no nitrous.

Viper

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I use the 980 daily driver, autox, stock flywheel. I love it! Rubber in 4 gears!

Fly By

I just ordered the VDS with a 910 disk <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Joe, what was your MPH on that run? Id like to get an idea on what mph your running, so I can setup my car similar <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />

Joe Kizzire

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by hugessracer:
<strong> I just ordered the VDS with a 910 disk <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Joe, what was your MPH on that run? Id like to get an idea on what mph your running, so I can setup my car similar <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Mph was 133.89 with 4.56's and 28 inch tires....
Rpm's thru the traps was around 7000-7200.

Y2K2LS1

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Joe Kizzire:
The 910 has the most holding power. The 980 has an organic surface on the flywheel side and syntered iron on the pressure plate side. This combination enables it to be used with the stock flywheel and retain good street manners while loosing some of its ability to hold ie... no nitrous.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ok then, so what is the difference between the 980 and the 300 series? I thought the 300 series was the organic, and the others were more "hard core".

Y2K2LS1

Ok, I did a search and found this

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> If you are around 400 hp or below, the 300 series is a good choice because it will be very smooth engaging. If you anticipate more mods, consider the 900 series. One more if, if using the stock flywheel (not recommended) and go to 900 series use the 980 which is 900/300 series combo - won't eat into the flywheel.

Adjustable master highly recommended also. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ok so what is the difference between the 900 and 300, and more importantly, 980 and 310 then? Why should I get the organic 980 over the organic 310 disk??

<small>[ February 03, 2003, 12:13 AM: Message edited by: Y2K2LS1 ]</small>

Gimp98TNT

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The 980 disk is one side Sinistered Iron, the other side is organic so it wont destroy a stock flywheel. over 400rwhp

The 910 disk is Iron on both sides, very aggressive, must use aluminum, or billet steel flywheel. 500rwhp+

The 310 disk is organic on both sides. 400rwhp & below. Hope this clears it up for you.

Joe you are the man i just finished reverse bleeding my clutch and worked perfect the first time. <img border="0" alt="[worship]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" />

<small>[ February 03, 2003, 08:26 AM: Message edited by: Gimp98TNT ]</small>

Joe Kizzire

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Gimp98TNT:
<strong>
Joe you are the man I just finished reverse bleeding my clutch and worked perfect the first time. <img border="0" alt="[worship]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Great!!!... I think that the problem being had by poeple with the Mcleod m/c's is air in the system. You also use the same procedure bleeding brakes where the m/c is lower than the calipers such as tube frame race cars.

Joe Kizzire

ttt for the guy that was looking for the bleeding procedure..... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

991LE

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Thanks Joe

Fly By

Joe, Im really lost here <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="gr_sad.gif" />

Im ready to put my clutch in, but I want to take your advice....I just dont understand your method. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="gr_emb.gif" /> If anyone knows other than bugging Joe, feel free to explain <img border="0" alt="[burn out]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_burnout.gif" />