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Old 03-23-2008, 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by miami993c297
Did you ever think about a RPS Street Twin Carbon/Organic???

I have it running marvelously and handling my "fast" upshifting @ 7200rpm in my 511 rwhp ZO6 actually....

Christian
tell me more, how much is it, how streetable, how much torque can it hold?
Old 03-23-2008, 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by antivtec69
what about Hays and centerforce?

I havent seen anyone comment on either ofthose so far
well i know a guy that broke his centerforce in a LT1, by spinning the hub in the firction disc..
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My boss had a tt 347 foxbody mustang and he said every clutch but the centerforce he used got fried.....this is an intresting topic, very intrested in some more input from others
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yeah, seriously guys. Lots more input. thanks
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I started with a McLeod, then tried the newly released '01 Z06 clutch (lasted 2 months), then a Spec 2, then a Spec 3, then a RAM, then a LS7. They all seemed to last about 2-3 years before requiring replacement. I just don't believe the costly solutions such as RPS, Exedy, and Textralia will have any longer lifetime than those I've already tried.

I may need another new clutch soon, and depending upon what we find wrong, my first choice will probably be the LS7 again. But I'm not making the torque you'll have. Try to find a vendor which gives you peace of mind with their support and/or warranty policy... and knock on wood.
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Even though I didn't have a great experience with my Textralia I would still recomend the clutch. I wish i realized about engagement issues before it was too late. That clutch had 3k miles on it, launches at 6800rpms on DR's with a 3900lbs car and had Very Very little wear. Thats pretty good for having 421rwhp N/A and 100-150 shot as well. I think if we had known that I needed an adjustable clutch master and took the time to fine tune it, the clutch would have lasted a long time. The driveability of that clutch was fantastic.
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I had a Tex oz700 & upgraded hydraulics on about 410rwhp and driving it was awesome. but I did have either a) engagement issues or b) hydraulic/master cylinder issues under fast acceleration/high rpm shifts. I replaced a Centerforce dual friction clutch as it gave out from previous owner. with a different car now & different setup, I'm shooting for 550rwhp turbo'd 347 DD and can't decide which clutch either. seems like dual friction, not centerforce, is what I'll look in to.
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Originally Posted by JimMueller
I started with a McLeod, then tried the newly released '01 Z06 clutch (lasted 2 months), then a Spec 2, then a Spec 3, then a RAM, then a LS7. They all seemed to last about 2-3 years before requiring replacement. I just don't believe the costly solutions such as RPS, Exedy, and Textralia will have any longer lifetime than those I've already tried.

I may need another new clutch soon, and depending upon what we find wrong, my first choice will probably be the LS7 again. But I'm not making the torque you'll have. Try to find a vendor which gives you peace of mind with their support and/or warranty policy... and knock on wood.
my car had the LS6 clutch in it factory(2001-2002 cars I believe so) and then I went LS7... the LS7 stll holds okay, but what do I know, that was 1 day with 432 rwhp and a year with 364rwhp... and even when I had 432rwhp at high rpms my clutch pedal was sinking halfway, but im sure thats from not changing the fluid in the hydraulics, after we took apart the motor, we never re bled it...
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anybody have input about the hayes clutch?
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Hey LS, sorry for the delayed response. I was out of the office at the end of last week with the flu. I am glad to be back among the healthy. You can contact any of our dealers for pricing (T56, Tbyrn, Livernois, SpeedInc, WS6 Store, etc)...as many of them will work with you a bit. Let me know if you have any further questions. Thanks!
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No deal
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what about the zoom clutch?
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Originally Posted by Jon5212
All those things you ask for for a 550-600 RWHP don't really exist. Some maybe partially driveable... but its not going to be stock feel. Affordable... that depends on your view of "affordable" and high torque capacity/horsepower capacity go along with what you are willing to accept as "driveable". You may need to look into a twin disc setup.
I would have to disagree with this statement. The Bird of Prey maintains stock peddal with no chatter and supports upwards of 800rwhp!
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Originally Posted by ArklaTexan
I would have to disagree with this statement. The Bird of Prey maintains stock peddal with no chatter and supports upwards of 800rwhp!
Wait, now its upward of 800HP but a few days ago it was 750 max?
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I dont know whats up with you guys with chattering 3+ 's but every 3+ ive driven did not chtter a bit. Mine didnt even chatter really when i first installed it.

I chalk the majority of clutch failures (most not all) to shitty install and shitty drivers.
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I'm not trying to Highjack the thread, but why so little imput on the RAM clutches.
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Originally Posted by brad8266
I dont know whats up with you guys with chattering 3+ 's but every 3+ ive driven did not chtter a bit. Mine didnt even chatter really when i first installed it.

I chalk the majority of clutch failures (most not all) to shitty install and shitty drivers.


I think people slip the spec 3's and 3+'s too much. From getting used to mine, they don't like it.
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Originally Posted by brad8266
Wait, now its upward of 800HP but a few days ago it was 750 max?
Since 900rwhp has not been able to tear it up yet I could have said higher. The 750 rating is extremely conservative. Brad how about you put this clutch in your car and see for yourself. That will make a believer out of you
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deff the textrallia i have the ls7 and it **** out with 455rwhp.

im gettin the text asap
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Originally Posted by ArklaTexan
Since 900rwhp has not been able to tear it up yet I could have said higher. The 750 rating is extremely conservative. Brad how about you put this clutch in your car and see for yourself. That will make a believer out of you
I just dont like inconsistencies and I have heard enough of them with that clutch to make me skeptical.

That clutch is too expensive IMO. If they will give my just the disc and plate for a decent price I might be game. I already have a billet flywheel so i wont waste my $$ on another one.


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