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camaros don't have the separations between the gauges like that. Trans ams do. Were there some camaros that came from the factory that way and ive just never seen one?
Last edited by KingSumthn; 02-17-2020 at 08:22 PM.
it just caught my eye and made me wonder. It appears to be a camaro cluster based on the colors of the metric numbers, so maybe someone took the bezel from a trans am and popped it in there. Very strange that someone took the time to do that to a car with 800 miles on it because they obviously don't use the car.
Last edited by KingSumthn; 02-02-2020 at 10:29 PM.
it just caught my eye and made me wonder. It appears to be a camaro cluster based on the colors of the metric numbers, so maybe someone took the bezel from a trans am and popped it in there. Very strange that someone took the time to do that to a car with 800 miles on it because they obviously don't use the car.
What's more likely is that there was a substitution wherever the cluster was assembled. The Camaro and Firebird clusters were probably built right next to each other.
What's more likely is that there was a substitution wherever the cluster was assembled. The Camaro and Firebird clusters were probably built right next to each other.
very interesting. My 02 ss didn’t have that either...
Although it appears to be a factory Pontiac bezel (compared to the jet cut non-OEM ones), I would bet it was added at a later date. It just seems weird to mess with the instrument panel when the extreme low mileage is adding value in this case. Either way, beautiful car.
Although it appears to be a factory Pontiac bezel (compared to the jet cut non-OEM ones), I would bet it was added at a later date. It just seems weird to mess with the instrument panel when the extreme low mileage is adding value in this case. Either way, beautiful car.
Again, that doesn't make sense. It's more likely a factory mistake as the two cars were built in the same place and used all the same sources for parts. Factory mistakes do happen. I've seen trucks shipped with the wrong grills, wrong emblems and even options that weren't ordered. It's far more likely than someone replacing a perfectly good instrument cluster with another one on a car with less than 1,000 miles on it.
Last edited by Spamfritter; 02-11-2020 at 12:54 PM.
Ill have to agree with wesst on this one. It was definitely added at a later date. There is zero chance that was a factory mistake. If it was a mistake it would have the entire trans am cluster, not just the bezel. Even ending up with the whole cluster would be far fetched. But regardless, any kind of inconsistency with a cluster on a 20 year old car that supposedly only has 800 miles should raise an eyebrow. If I saw this on a car with normal mileage I wouldn't even think twice about it. Its only weird because who messes with a cluster on a brand new car.
Ill have to agree with wesst on this one. It was definitely added at a later date. There is zero chance that was a factory mistake. If it was a mistake it would have the entire trans am cluster, not just the bezel. Even ending up with the whole cluster would be far fetched. But regardless, any kind of inconsistency with a cluster on a 20 year old car that supposedly only has 800 miles should raise an eyebrow. If I saw this on a car with normal mileage I wouldn't even think twice about it. Its only weird because who messes with a cluster on a brand new car.
Factory mistakes can and do happen. Substitutions also happen. The clusters were probably assembled in the same place. In fact, it's almost a certainty. We damn well know the cars were as well. A lot of parts, especially electronic parts are still largely assembled by hand. Even more so back then. Surface mount stuff isn't, but many things are. It would be very easy for someone to put a cluster together out of the wrong parts.
That said, the only way I could see this happening is if the original cluster failed in some way and it was long past the warranty period. The previous owner could have easily bought a Trans Am cluster, realized it wasn't right and changed the gauge overlays so they'd be correct. Your right though, it does raise an eyebrow. On a 100,000+ mile car, I'd naturally assume that someone put a Trans Am cluster in it with a Camaro gauge overlay as a cheap repair. On a preserved car with only 884 miles, its weird.
That is def not a Camaro cluster. With that being said, that car is mints and super nice. If I were a collector looking for a $30k F-body, that cluster change would be a deal breaker just saying...
It is 100% a camaro cluster. You can tell by the colors on the tach, temp, and fuel gauge. The Pontiacs were different. However this car has the Pontiac bezel on the camaro cluster. Why? The owner may not even know, and he hasn't responded so it's prob a mute point anyway.
Its the original cluster with a Trans-am bezel. I originally bought the car with the intention of driving it and the t/a bezel was one of my favorite mods. Yes it was VERY nerve racking adding it. I was very careful, dropping the Steering column to remove it. I have the original of course. This thread has been dead forever and didnt know I had so many responses.
Last edited by white_camaro; 02-25-2020 at 01:57 AM.
It definitely crossed my mind when I posted the picture, but would never have imagined it would cause such a stir. But even at that it didnt become a subject until relatively recently. Ive had this post up for months.