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Old 01-31-2020, 08:02 PM
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?? Looks like Camaro to me..
Old 01-31-2020, 09:11 PM
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It looks like the cluster in both my 2000 Camaro SS and my 2001 Camaro SS.
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Old 02-01-2020, 01:46 PM
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camaros don't have the separations between the gauges like that. Trans ams do. Were there some camaros that came from the factory that way and ive just never seen one?


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Old 02-02-2020, 09:28 PM
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I'll be damned. I've never noticed that before. Neither my 2000 or 2001 have those separations in the cluster.
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it just caught my eye and made me wonder. It appears to be a camaro cluster based on the colors of the metric numbers, so maybe someone took the bezel from a trans am and popped it in there. Very strange that someone took the time to do that to a car with 800 miles on it because they obviously don't use the car.

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Originally Posted by KingSumthn
it just caught my eye and made me wonder. It appears to be a camaro cluster based on the colors of the metric numbers, so maybe someone took the bezel from a trans am and popped it in there. Very strange that someone took the time to do that to a car with 800 miles on it because they obviously don't use the car.
What's more likely is that there was a substitution wherever the cluster was assembled. The Camaro and Firebird clusters were probably built right next to each other.
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Originally Posted by Spamfritter
What's more likely is that there was a substitution wherever the cluster was assembled. The Camaro and Firebird clusters were probably built right next to each other.
very interesting. My 02 ss didn’t have that either...
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Although it appears to be a factory Pontiac bezel (compared to the jet cut non-OEM ones), I would bet it was added at a later date. It just seems weird to mess with the instrument panel when the extreme low mileage is adding value in this case. Either way, beautiful car.
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Originally Posted by wesst
Although it appears to be a factory Pontiac bezel (compared to the jet cut non-OEM ones), I would bet it was added at a later date. It just seems weird to mess with the instrument panel when the extreme low mileage is adding value in this case. Either way, beautiful car.
Again, that doesn't make sense. It's more likely a factory mistake as the two cars were built in the same place and used all the same sources for parts. Factory mistakes do happen. I've seen trucks shipped with the wrong grills, wrong emblems and even options that weren't ordered. It's far more likely than someone replacing a perfectly good instrument cluster with another one on a car with less than 1,000 miles on it.

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Old 02-13-2020, 03:54 PM
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Ill have to agree with wesst on this one. It was definitely added at a later date. There is zero chance that was a factory mistake. If it was a mistake it would have the entire trans am cluster, not just the bezel. Even ending up with the whole cluster would be far fetched. But regardless, any kind of inconsistency with a cluster on a 20 year old car that supposedly only has 800 miles should raise an eyebrow. If I saw this on a car with normal mileage I wouldn't even think twice about it. Its only weird because who messes with a cluster on a brand new car.
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Originally Posted by KingSumthn
Ill have to agree with wesst on this one. It was definitely added at a later date. There is zero chance that was a factory mistake. If it was a mistake it would have the entire trans am cluster, not just the bezel. Even ending up with the whole cluster would be far fetched. But regardless, any kind of inconsistency with a cluster on a 20 year old car that supposedly only has 800 miles should raise an eyebrow. If I saw this on a car with normal mileage I wouldn't even think twice about it. Its only weird because who messes with a cluster on a brand new car.
Factory mistakes can and do happen. Substitutions also happen. The clusters were probably assembled in the same place. In fact, it's almost a certainty. We damn well know the cars were as well. A lot of parts, especially electronic parts are still largely assembled by hand. Even more so back then. Surface mount stuff isn't, but many things are. It would be very easy for someone to put a cluster together out of the wrong parts.

That said, the only way I could see this happening is if the original cluster failed in some way and it was long past the warranty period. The previous owner could have easily bought a Trans Am cluster, realized it wasn't right and changed the gauge overlays so they'd be correct. Your right though, it does raise an eyebrow. On a 100,000+ mile car, I'd naturally assume that someone put a Trans Am cluster in it with a Camaro gauge overlay as a cheap repair. On a preserved car with only 884 miles, its weird.
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Maybe it’s just a Unicorn..
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odd that since someone said something about the gauge bezel being off, the member who started the thread has been silent
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Originally Posted by AKain
odd that since someone said something about the gauge bezel being off, the member who started the thread has been silent
I have been thinking the same thing for a few days now. Maybe the guy is just busy?

edit- the autotrader link goes to nothing now. Maybe he sold it and forgot about this thread?
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That is def not a Camaro cluster. With that being said, that car is mints and super nice. If I were a collector looking for a $30k F-body, that cluster change would be a deal breaker just saying...
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It is 100% a camaro cluster. You can tell by the colors on the tach, temp, and fuel gauge. The Pontiacs were different. However this car has the Pontiac bezel on the camaro cluster. Why? The owner may not even know, and he hasn't responded so it's prob a mute point anyway.
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Wow, I never noticed that either and it's odd the OP just went off the grid.
Old 02-24-2020, 04:52 PM
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Its the original cluster with a Trans-am bezel. I originally bought the car with the intention of driving it and the t/a bezel was one of my favorite mods. Yes it was VERY nerve racking adding it. I was very careful, dropping the Steering column to remove it. I have the original of course. This thread has been dead forever and didnt know I had so many responses.

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Old 02-24-2020, 06:05 PM
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? Whoa, should’ve put that in the beginning details.. You posted on an LS1 fanatic site.
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It definitely crossed my mind when I posted the picture, but would never have imagined it would cause such a stir. But even at that it didnt become a subject until relatively recently. Ive had this post up for months.



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