!Wisconsin RWHP and RWTQ ratings List!
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!Wisconsin RWHP and RWTQ ratings List!
Lets see what some WIS. people have put down on the rollers.
Me currently:
433 RWHP and 389 RWTQ on a mustang Dyno
Not sure on Dyno Jet #'s but if someone wants to convert them for, please do. I been told it would be right around 450, give or take a few.
Sad thing is, I only ran a 12.2 at 115 mph, but that was on stock 10 bolt and rear gear, which is now laying in pieces after 2 launches from only 3500 RPM on Nitto's. LOL
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433 RWHP and 389 RWTQ on a mustang Dyno
Not sure on Dyno Jet #'s but if someone wants to convert them for, please do. I been told it would be right around 450, give or take a few.
Sad thing is, I only ran a 12.2 at 115 mph, but that was on stock 10 bolt and rear gear, which is now laying in pieces after 2 launches from only 3500 RPM on Nitto's. LOL
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290rwhp on a mustang torque was over 400 for a long period which tells me if I had locked the converter it would have been over 300rwhp easily because my little 350 aint making that kind of torque NA the converter must have been working HARD. Once my pic host is back up I will post the graph, it is not on this computer so I can't just upload it here. Not a big number but it has powwered my grandpa car to repeatable 13.2 at 101mph, 13.6 on street tires. Looking to go a little fast this year.
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375 ponies and 378 ft/lbs NA
516 and 565 w/ 100 shot of n20.
all numbers on a superflow dyno.
i am lookin to pic up some more power as im am switching cams and going to a 150 shot.
516 and 565 w/ 100 shot of n20.
all numbers on a superflow dyno.
i am lookin to pic up some more power as im am switching cams and going to a 150 shot.
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449 rwtq and 302 rwhp on dynojet, but as you can see by the chart, it was cut off at 3600 rpm. It wasn't run any higher because he didn't have permission to run it any higher, which after I picked the car up, I told the guy he could have run it to 6000 rpm, but it was already off the dyno at that point. He put over 10 tunes into the car, and once I got it back, there was a huge difference. I plan to take it back this spring to get the actual numbers on it.
449 rwtq and 302 rwhp on dynojet, but as you can see by the chart, it was cut off at 3600 rpm. It wasn't run any higher because he didn't have permission to run it any higher, which after I picked the car up, I told the guy he could have run it to 6000 rpm, but it was already off the dyno at that point. He put over 10 tunes into the car, and once I got it back, there was a huge difference. I plan to take it back this spring to get the actual numbers on it.
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SprFly99TA - I dynoed my car up there, actaully have it on vid. I don't think that guy knows to much about fuel injected cars. I may be wrong. Just from talking to him about LS1's and LT1's, I felt he knew very little. He kept calling car an LT1, and when ur tuning a car, u should know what is what. Anyway, I just had him do a few pulls on the mail order tune that was in the car from TSP. All I had was a sniffer in the driver side pipe, and it made 402 RWHP at 6000 rpm, but it machine kept reading CRAZY air/fuel readings. So he kept shutting it down at 6000rpm.
So I left and hauled it down to Ill. to StraightLine Performance and He ran it and it made like 412-415 and 6500 RPM on the mail order tune, WHICH WAS DEAD ON. They messed w/ it and it eventually made 433 RWHP and 389 RWTQ on a mustang Dyno, which is 463.31 rwhp on a dynojet like D&D's.
So I was like, what the hell is D&D's problem. Well, i watched the tape and the sniffer on the exhaust kept blowing off and sending the air/fuel to crazy levels. So it was a parts malfunction on his part. What a Waste of time and money.
Anyway, my friend had D&D dyno tune his 2001 Lightning on the dyno through a Predator Programmer and 4 months later, BOOM, leaned out bad and blew up. I told my friend I was skeptical already, and looking at the dyno sheet, I was even more weary of the outcome of his "dyno tune". No bad injectors, nothing, only could have been on the tune really. Not to mention it made about 20-30 less horse then everyone else w/ his setup.
This is my experience w/ this shop, urs may have been better, but I doubt it. Also, ur Torque levels are through the roof!!!! In other words, thay are unrealistic for the mods u have, I mean u have more then most stroker motors on here. Also, u should be making that kind of HP at 6000 rpm, not 3600 like u mentioned. I would think ur making a good 310-320 at the wheel for HP.
So I left and hauled it down to Ill. to StraightLine Performance and He ran it and it made like 412-415 and 6500 RPM on the mail order tune, WHICH WAS DEAD ON. They messed w/ it and it eventually made 433 RWHP and 389 RWTQ on a mustang Dyno, which is 463.31 rwhp on a dynojet like D&D's.
So I was like, what the hell is D&D's problem. Well, i watched the tape and the sniffer on the exhaust kept blowing off and sending the air/fuel to crazy levels. So it was a parts malfunction on his part. What a Waste of time and money.
Anyway, my friend had D&D dyno tune his 2001 Lightning on the dyno through a Predator Programmer and 4 months later, BOOM, leaned out bad and blew up. I told my friend I was skeptical already, and looking at the dyno sheet, I was even more weary of the outcome of his "dyno tune". No bad injectors, nothing, only could have been on the tune really. Not to mention it made about 20-30 less horse then everyone else w/ his setup.
This is my experience w/ this shop, urs may have been better, but I doubt it. Also, ur Torque levels are through the roof!!!! In other words, thay are unrealistic for the mods u have, I mean u have more then most stroker motors on here. Also, u should be making that kind of HP at 6000 rpm, not 3600 like u mentioned. I would think ur making a good 310-320 at the wheel for HP.
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Don't be pissed at me for this post, I'm not trying to be a dick. I was told the same thing when I posted my crazy dyno sheet from D&D. I just researched alot and found out they were all right.
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453rwhp 433ft-lbs N/A
Nitrous - Who knows.
Car's got a TH350 and a 9" riding around on 28" slicks in Milwaukee area. Will be changed since those numbers are with a 78mm LSX and stock MAF/TB. Going with the Victor Jr. and 4500 style TB. 382 all bore is what was/is powering it
Nitrous - Who knows.
Car's got a TH350 and a 9" riding around on 28" slicks in Milwaukee area. Will be changed since those numbers are with a 78mm LSX and stock MAF/TB. Going with the Victor Jr. and 4500 style TB. 382 all bore is what was/is powering it
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jj_z28, thanks for the heads up, I haven't really heard much about that place before I went there, and seeing as they just opened earlier last year, I was kind of skeptical also. I also agree that the torque number is through the roof, but compaired to what my car was putting out before I had it tuned, it was like dropping off a geo and picking up a vette. The reason being is that my car was running extremely lean, almost 40 to 1 at times. I would like to get it dynoed somewhere else, and I know that a new shop opened last fall in the kronenwetter/mosinee area, so I may go check them out. He must have worked on your car before mine, seeing as he atleast called it a LS1. He showed me the work he did with the fuel tables, seeing I was there for part of the day, I had it tuned the end of Sept. and haven't had any troubles with it. I put the car away in mid November, so I am hoping that he gained atleast some more knowledge as far as FI motors, and it works out in my favor. Once again thanks for the heads up.
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No problem w/ the heads up. The guy in mosinee ur speaking of seems to know his ****, but is Expensive!! He has an all-wheel dyno, which is uncommon, but nice. He does almost all Mustangs, at least when I was talking to him. I stopped in there and checked it out. Real badass place, setup is real nice, and everything is NEW. I should give him a call once and see if his price has come down and if he has any kind of GM tuning ability yet.
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I was told by evergreen0077 that he had gone to some training for LS1 vehicles last fall, so hopefully he is somewhat knowledgable on the LS1 motor now....and after I dropped $1100 at D&D for everything (my car was a real mess), I am sure his prices won't scare me away...atleast I hope not.
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Stay the hell away from that place.....PERIOD! First time I went there, he only got me about 350rwhp, and 440rwtq with a 4lb lower, and a CAI. I should have been closer to 390/480. About a month later, he told me Diablo had showed him how to better use the predator to tune vehicles, so he wanted to redo my truck. Stupid on my part, I brought it back. I told him I wanted my A/F ratio to be around 11.8-12.0. He said no no no, that is way too rich for a F/I vehicle. He put it around 12.8, and at WOT it bounced between that and around 17! About 3 months after the tune, there I sat with 4 melted pistons. I had him change my fuel filter, and he was too lazy to put it back in the hanger for it on the frame. He just left it dangling. He also told me my predator was the reason I was having problems melting the electrodes completely off my spark plugs. He took it and got me a "new one". I tried to plug the "new one" in to use it, and it would not even turn on. The new motor is definently being brought to a shop that knows how to use their tools.
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You two are starting to scare the sh*t out of me, but thats probably a very good thing. I am going to have to take my car to a different shop as soon as the snow is melted. Better safe than sorry, and I don't feel like scraping together money for a rebuild or new motor. Although, if I would have ran my car any longer in the state it was in, I would have been doing that anyways, so on a brighter note, he atleast moved that point back a little further, lol.
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joebob450r, when Dave (I am assuming thats who tuned your truck, seeing as he was the only one really around when I was there) tuned your truck, did he have a vehicle specific program for his laptop that he also had to order to go along with the predator? Thats what he had to do with mine, then he used the predator to enter them into the car. Just wondering if he did the same kind of setup with your vehicle also.
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It downshifted and they were using wheel RPM so the 500+ stuff is with 2nd gear multiplication further down in the graph after the second peak(2-3 shift) would be more honest numbers, I had tried to defeat the downshift but couldn't get to to stay in drive. So in the end the graph is coming in AFTER peak torque which is probably down around 3500rpms.
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A specific program? Since U had a Predator, there should be no need for a another program. What all did he give u for the 1,100 dollars. Hopefully not just some tuning!! Did he buy a program such as HPtuners, or EFILive or what. A tune should run u no more then $300. When u get say, HPtuners, it is good for doing basically anything to ur PCM on ur car, and if he bought that and kept it, u got screwed. Cause now he can tune any 1999 LS1, under your expense. Let me know.