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07-21-2007, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SS1875
here Jon have another!!!
Thanks, will do. 
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95 Pontiac Formula- Stock engine with ATI Procharger, Moser 12 bolt w/4:30 gears, Rossler trans, Neil Chance 4000 stall, M/T ET streets, 10.914@ 121.90mph, 1.452 60ft. GMHTP November 2010 Feature Car. Check it out at:
https://www.motortrend.com/features/...ebird-formula/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abZ1z...ature=youtu.be
07-22-2007, 12:31 AM
#563
Chris...sell it, no use having a fast car in this town....get a couple of dogs! What is wrong with your shortblock? Isn't that thing stock and low miles, and I know you drive like the biggest ***** in the world, so what happened???
Joe, come over to the dark side....I bet Graber will do so as well.....are his race trucks ready yet??? I wanted to see the nasty one at the track sometime this year!
SDB
Joe, come over to the dark side....I bet Graber will do so as well.....are his race trucks ready yet??? I wanted to see the nasty one at the track sometime this year!
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07-22-2007, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JPH
better be people out tonite. or i'm sidin' with SDB.
Joe, did you hear back from Chad?
07-22-2007, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GMMillwright
How was the turnout? Too bad I had to work.
Joe, did you hear back from Chad?
Joe, did you hear back from Chad?
chris= sorry for your bad luck.
gmmillright= bodigans was awesome, and yes chad is coming back up soon to look at your car and to fix a few others.
07-22-2007, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Juiced2000SS
Not sure what happened. After taking some things apart we found the #7, and #8 spark plug electrodes were bent. All of the valvetrain was okay. Fixed the spark plugs and it runs okay now but, it has a knock sound when you start to give it some throttle. I am still trying to rule out anything else but, it doesn't look good.
07-22-2007, 09:54 PM
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I echo Bob's sentiment. I've spent a long time in performance forced induction (grew up with/worked on the quickest/fastest/winningest Top Fuel motorcycle team in history), and have also torn down lots of 3800s with a touch too much boost put to them. I'd have to see the plug to be sure, but most likely you have a chip out of that piston. 
With the makeup of the pistons in these motors, you can probably limp on it for a brief while, but if that thing gets spun hard, it's likely going to frag completely, and new pistons are cheaper then a new block.
Sounds like a forged bottom end is on its way. I've got a nice collection of pistons with the same thing done to them hanging on my wall. (none mine, yet).
With the makeup of the pistons in these motors, you can probably limp on it for a brief while, but if that thing gets spun hard, it's likely going to frag completely, and new pistons are cheaper then a new block.
Sounds like a forged bottom end is on its way. I've got a nice collection of pistons with the same thing done to them hanging on my wall. (none mine, yet).
07-23-2007, 06:00 AM
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A compression test and a leak down test don't always show the problem.
I would pull the heads to see what is going on, no matter what, they have to come off. Something had to bent the electrodes, which is the key here.
I know it sucks, been there!
We only have one good engine available right now, and it is an LS6 that I am keeping for the Ferrari 308 that is in our showroom area. Bob
I would pull the heads to see what is going on, no matter what, they have to come off. Something had to bent the electrodes, which is the key here.
I know it sucks, been there!
We only have one good engine available right now, and it is an LS6 that I am keeping for the Ferrari 308 that is in our showroom area. Bob
07-23-2007, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JPH
gmmillright= bodigans was awesome, and yes chad is coming back up soon to look at your car and to fix a few others.
07-23-2007, 01:41 PM
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good thing about a bent electrode is that you know the piston is still in the motor!!!!!! The bad thing is that its time to spend $3000 on a stock cube forged shortblock!!! Start reading the for sale sections, or just bite the bullett and get a forged 416 cube L92 setup and call it a day, sell the nitrous and headers you got, get new headers, big stall, build the tranny, etc. About $25K should cover it. THEN when it breaks its real expensive!
I bet you can find a low mileage shortblock fairly cheap from some vendor, maybe even call LPE or have Joe ask Al if he knows of any take out LSx motors available.
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I bet you can find a low mileage shortblock fairly cheap from some vendor, maybe even call LPE or have Joe ask Al if he knows of any take out LSx motors available.
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07-23-2007, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Juiced2000SS
Not sure what happened. After taking some things apart we found the #7, and #8 spark plug electrodes were bent. All of the valvetrain was okay. Fixed the spark plugs and it runs okay now but, it has a knock sound when you start to give it some throttle. I am still trying to rule out anything else but, it doesn't look good.
Chris, sorry about your motor...I can definately relate. I hope it turns out okay for you.
07-23-2007, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Juiced2000SS
Not sure what happened. After taking some things apart we found the #7, and #8 spark plug electrodes were bent. All of the valvetrain was okay. Fixed the spark plugs and it runs okay now but, it has a knock sound when you start to give it some throttle. I am still trying to rule out anything else but, it doesn't look good.
Check to make sure you didnt leave a rag in that lifter valley.
Sorry had to do it.
07-23-2007, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Juiced2000SS
Yeah, I called them too. They said like everyone else to tear it down and see whats up. Need to check the pistons, heads and lifters at this point. They have the best prices at this point on new shortblocks with good internals. I did forget to ask if they had any stock ones laying around though. We'll see.
07-24-2007, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Juiced2000SS
Yeah, I called them too. They said like everyone else to tear it down and see whats up. Need to check the pistons, heads and lifters at this point. They have the best prices at this point on new shortblocks with good internals. I did forget to ask if they had any stock ones laying around though. We'll see.
Sorry it looks like you'll be dropping some $ in the motor. On the plus side, now is the perfect time to go with a great forged internal setup, or at least a nice big cubed setup. Either way, I would go with the aftermarket parts in your decision. You're going to be paying the same for laybor either way, you might as well get a big smile on your face from the extra power with go fast parts after the new motor, than be out thousands, and still have the same power level you previously had.Just be thankfull your car is not silver or pewter. You'd be looking to spend a small fortune on a regular basis.
