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I'm an air traffic controller at Sheppard AFB, so here's my take.
Join to be a controller, you can replace me cause I'm getting out in 5 weeks to join the FAA. Being a controller is awsome, the Air Force offers the highest bonus for controller's to try and compete w/ the FAA. If I didn't have family in the FAA, I'd be re-enlisting. The satisfaction/thrill of the job is undescribable.
Only about 20% of air traffic controllers are in a tower. Most of them work in a dark room w/o any windows working in front of a RADAR scope.
But being a controller isn't an easy job. We have a 50% washout rate, so if you don't make it, then you've just wasted about 2 years of your time, not to mention everyone else that was training you.
Join to be a controller, you can replace me cause I'm getting out in 5 weeks to join the FAA. Being a controller is awsome, the Air Force offers the highest bonus for controller's to try and compete w/ the FAA. If I didn't have family in the FAA, I'd be re-enlisting. The satisfaction/thrill of the job is undescribable.
Only about 20% of air traffic controllers are in a tower. Most of them work in a dark room w/o any windows working in front of a RADAR scope.
But being a controller isn't an easy job. We have a 50% washout rate, so if you don't make it, then you've just wasted about 2 years of your time, not to mention everyone else that was training you.
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Originally Posted by Z28/2002
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He's right we are basically over paid janitors that sit in recliners/watch tv and wait for a run. If you have any qustions about the Firefighting career (FYI-- it is 3E7X1) field just pm me .
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Originally Posted by Seagraves#85
I work in Fire Truck Maintenance. Fire men are some lazy mother fu**ers. Just joking
, I just wish I could get paid to watch TV and lift wieghts all day!!
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Originally Posted by foxspy
I'm an air traffic controller at Sheppard AFB, so here's my take.
Join to be a controller, you can replace me cause I'm getting out in 5 weeks to join the FAA. Being a controller is awsome, the Air Force offers the highest bonus for controller's to try and compete w/ the FAA. If I didn't have family in the FAA, I'd be re-enlisting. The satisfaction/thrill of the job is undescribable.
Only about 20% of air traffic controllers are in a tower. Most of them work in a dark room w/o any windows working in front of a RADAR scope.
But being a controller isn't an easy job. We have a 50% washout rate, so if you don't make it, then you've just wasted about 2 years of your time, not to mention everyone else that was training you.
Join to be a controller, you can replace me cause I'm getting out in 5 weeks to join the FAA. Being a controller is awsome, the Air Force offers the highest bonus for controller's to try and compete w/ the FAA. If I didn't have family in the FAA, I'd be re-enlisting. The satisfaction/thrill of the job is undescribable.
Only about 20% of air traffic controllers are in a tower. Most of them work in a dark room w/o any windows working in front of a RADAR scope.
But being a controller isn't an easy job. We have a 50% washout rate, so if you don't make it, then you've just wasted about 2 years of your time, not to mention everyone else that was training you.
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Originally Posted by Black_98SS
no kidding! i ask my buddies what they did today and they say, "took a nap, lifted some weights and made a sandwich..." lasy ***... the only down side is that they work 24 hours a day, every other day without being able to leave the station during their shift... and i hear that getting leave approved is a bitch... they have to schedule leave a year in advance! that's ![Supergay](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies2/supergay.gif)
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Seagraves#85---just remember one thing, we all get paid the same for any given rank. Which isn't fair to the guys/gals that work their *** off in some of the tougher/more demanding career fields. Don't get me wrong I am not saying I have a cake job because it isn't; although others may disagree. It's just some AFSC's have more down time than others
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Originally Posted by Grave
So, how's the old B.I.O.T. anyways? Have the crabs taken over the island yet? I was there for OEF from Sept-01 thru Mar-02.
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Originally Posted by Z28/2002
It's true about the work schedule but depending were you are stationed you get five days off in a row (at Seymour we get 3 days for every nine shifts worked). The leave situation is also true it depends on your station's manning which is
but that's just the price you pay.
Seagraves#85---just remember one thing, we all get paid the same for any given rank. Which isn't fair to the guys/gals that work their *** off in some of the tougher/more demanding career fields. Don't get me wrong I am not saying I have a cake job because it isn't; although others may disagree. It's just some AFSC's have more down time than others![Rolleyes](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/rolleyes.gif)
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Seagraves#85---just remember one thing, we all get paid the same for any given rank. Which isn't fair to the guys/gals that work their *** off in some of the tougher/more demanding career fields. Don't get me wrong I am not saying I have a cake job because it isn't; although others may disagree. It's just some AFSC's have more down time than others
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Most firemen are cool but some dont have a clue, they would rather be watching TV than learning thier jobs!
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Originally Posted by Seagraves#85
We are one of few AF squadrons supporting the Army and going TDY to IRaq for 8 months doing convoy duty.
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Also only job in the airforce where an enlisted man can tell a pilot what to do and the pilot will listen
. If I don't make pilot I'm going Air Base Management, which means I well get trained to do ATC as well.
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Originally Posted by foxspy
I'm an air traffic controller at Sheppard AFB, so here's my take.
Join to be a controller, you can replace me cause I'm getting out in 5 weeks to join the FAA. Being a controller is awsome, the Air Force offers the highest bonus for controller's to try and compete w/ the FAA. If I didn't have family in the FAA, I'd be re-enlisting. The satisfaction/thrill of the job is undescribable.
Only about 20% of air traffic controllers are in a tower. Most of them work in a dark room w/o any windows working in front of a RADAR scope.
But being a controller isn't an easy job. We have a 50% washout rate, so if you don't make it, then you've just wasted about 2 years of your time, not to mention everyone else that was training you.
Join to be a controller, you can replace me cause I'm getting out in 5 weeks to join the FAA. Being a controller is awsome, the Air Force offers the highest bonus for controller's to try and compete w/ the FAA. If I didn't have family in the FAA, I'd be re-enlisting. The satisfaction/thrill of the job is undescribable.
Only about 20% of air traffic controllers are in a tower. Most of them work in a dark room w/o any windows working in front of a RADAR scope.
But being a controller isn't an easy job. We have a 50% washout rate, so if you don't make it, then you've just wasted about 2 years of your time, not to mention everyone else that was training you.
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Theres allot of people here that are giving crappy advice. Why do I know, because I did the recruiting job for 3 years, and I have 17 years experince in the service.
1st, get a guaranteed , in writing in your contract, prior to leaving MEPPS. Dont be a fool and think that the classifier is going to give you a list of five jobs, and you can pick later. Either get it then, or walk and go see another branch of the service. We all have good jobs/bad. Great bonuses, and bad. **** and good jobs. Its your life, your career. Think of who needs the most technical training. Generally its the Navy. Why, because there carriers for example, cant afford to have as many techs because of space, and need there techs to be more trained in the air craft. Submarines, need more people to be able to do more jobs.
Very few jobs are guranteed in the Air Force. A language person can be guranteed a school. For example, if you pass the DLAB, you can get a school in Monetery to become a language person. But, there hard to get. But great for the outside business world if you choose.
Army/Marines. You are a soldier first, and dont think otherwise, then you get a job. Look at there boo9t camps, and then you go to a Adnaved Individual Training, then to your technical area. Your still , generally, and ground pounder.
You probably chose the AF because its "easy". Well easy isnt going to get you a job in the outside worl. You better work hard, get promoted, and get your education through TA etc.
The military is what YOU make of it. Take advantage of the military, dont let it take advantage of you. Get a guranteed job, and do your best at it. If you cant get a guranteed job before going to Boot Camp, DONT go till they put it in your contract that you are guranteed the training for that MOS/RATE or whatever the AF calls it. Good luck, and thanks for joining regardless.
1st, get a guaranteed , in writing in your contract, prior to leaving MEPPS. Dont be a fool and think that the classifier is going to give you a list of five jobs, and you can pick later. Either get it then, or walk and go see another branch of the service. We all have good jobs/bad. Great bonuses, and bad. **** and good jobs. Its your life, your career. Think of who needs the most technical training. Generally its the Navy. Why, because there carriers for example, cant afford to have as many techs because of space, and need there techs to be more trained in the air craft. Submarines, need more people to be able to do more jobs.
Very few jobs are guranteed in the Air Force. A language person can be guranteed a school. For example, if you pass the DLAB, you can get a school in Monetery to become a language person. But, there hard to get. But great for the outside business world if you choose.
Army/Marines. You are a soldier first, and dont think otherwise, then you get a job. Look at there boo9t camps, and then you go to a Adnaved Individual Training, then to your technical area. Your still , generally, and ground pounder.
You probably chose the AF because its "easy". Well easy isnt going to get you a job in the outside worl. You better work hard, get promoted, and get your education through TA etc.
The military is what YOU make of it. Take advantage of the military, dont let it take advantage of you. Get a guranteed job, and do your best at it. If you cant get a guranteed job before going to Boot Camp, DONT go till they put it in your contract that you are guranteed the training for that MOS/RATE or whatever the AF calls it. Good luck, and thanks for joining regardless.
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Originally Posted by hawaiiboysz
Yo what happens to a ATC when they accidentaly try to land a acft on another or make them come in towards each other? I have heard or these things happening before well quite recently anyways what happens to them? Slap on the wrist? LOR Art. 15?? I would hate to be in their shoes.
You'd lose your ratings and have to start training over again. That's on minor seperation errors. If planes actually hit and it's your fault, then you're looking at jail time.
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Originally Posted by Steve40th
Theres allot of people here that are giving crappy advice. Why do I know, because I did the recruiting job for 3 years, and I have 17 years experince in the service.
1st, get a guaranteed , in writing in your contract, prior to leaving MEPPS. Dont be a fool and think that the classifier is going to give you a list of five jobs, and you can pick later. Either get it then, or walk and go see another branch of the service. We all have good jobs/bad. Great bonuses, and bad. **** and good jobs. Its your life, your career. Think of who needs the most technical training. Generally its the Navy. Why, because there carriers for example, cant afford to have as many techs because of space, and need there techs to be more trained in the air craft. Submarines, need more people to be able to do more jobs.
Very few jobs are guranteed in the Air Force. A language person can be guranteed a school. For example, if you pass the DLAB, you can get a school in Monetery to become a language person. But, there hard to get. But great for the outside business world if you choose.
Army/Marines. You are a soldier first, and dont think otherwise, then you get a job. Look at there boo9t camps, and then you go to a Adnaved Individual Training, then to your technical area. Your still , generally, and ground pounder.
You probably chose the AF because its "easy". Well easy isnt going to get you a job in the outside worl. You better work hard, get promoted, and get your education through TA etc.
The military is what YOU make of it. Take advantage of the military, dont let it take advantage of you. Get a guranteed job, and do your best at it. If you cant get a guranteed job before going to Boot Camp, DONT go till they put it in your contract that you are guranteed the training for that MOS/RATE or whatever the AF calls it. Good luck, and thanks for joining regardless.
1st, get a guaranteed , in writing in your contract, prior to leaving MEPPS. Dont be a fool and think that the classifier is going to give you a list of five jobs, and you can pick later. Either get it then, or walk and go see another branch of the service. We all have good jobs/bad. Great bonuses, and bad. **** and good jobs. Its your life, your career. Think of who needs the most technical training. Generally its the Navy. Why, because there carriers for example, cant afford to have as many techs because of space, and need there techs to be more trained in the air craft. Submarines, need more people to be able to do more jobs.
Very few jobs are guranteed in the Air Force. A language person can be guranteed a school. For example, if you pass the DLAB, you can get a school in Monetery to become a language person. But, there hard to get. But great for the outside business world if you choose.
Army/Marines. You are a soldier first, and dont think otherwise, then you get a job. Look at there boo9t camps, and then you go to a Adnaved Individual Training, then to your technical area. Your still , generally, and ground pounder.
You probably chose the AF because its "easy". Well easy isnt going to get you a job in the outside worl. You better work hard, get promoted, and get your education through TA etc.
The military is what YOU make of it. Take advantage of the military, dont let it take advantage of you. Get a guranteed job, and do your best at it. If you cant get a guranteed job before going to Boot Camp, DONT go till they put it in your contract that you are guranteed the training for that MOS/RATE or whatever the AF calls it. Good luck, and thanks for joining regardless.
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Originally Posted by hawaiiboysz
Dont be a wise *** like this guy^^^^^^ I had to talk a Cop out of taking his dumb *** to jail. Remember that, Jay??? When I was TDY to Wright Patt and you were going to that CF class. Dont be a Jay just remember that! Use Jay as a wrong expample he doesnt like authority
But when you get some rank later on you will need to be a smart *** or people will run all over you.
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wussup guys, im in the Vehicle Ops career
AND DAMN DOES IT SUCK *****!!!!!!!
I have been to the desert about 4 times and i actually like being over ther more than i do CONUS (state side)
I have been to Balad, Al Jabber, PSAB, And my most favorite Eskan Villiage
!!!! I hate it though, so i will be getting out in about 4 months, VANDENBERG SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good luck with your career, but do something that you can use in the civilian world (definately NOT my jobby)
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I have been to Balad, Al Jabber, PSAB, And my most favorite Eskan Villiage
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Originally Posted by Steve40th
You probably chose the AF because its "easy". Well easy isnt going to get you a job in the outside worl. You better work hard, get promoted, and get your education through TA etc.
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Originally Posted by Steve40th
You probably chose the AF because its "easy". Well easy isnt going to get you a job in the outside worl. You better work hard, get promoted, and get your education through TA etc.