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05-20-2007, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by J-Rod
Probably the best resource:
http://veriseal.org/
Others...
http://www.navyfrogmen.com/phony.html
http://www.nightscribe.com/Military/...nabe_seals.htm
http://www.specialoperations.com/Phonies/
A couple of simple questions. If the individual can't answer them, chance are they are a fake.
Ask for:
Class number
Swim Buddy
Commanding officer
Platoon Officer
Laws on the books for pretenders...
Title 18 United States Code:
Sec. 702. Uniform of the armed services and Public Health Service:
Whoever, in any place within the jurisdiction of the United States or in the Canal Zone, without
authority, wears the uniform, or a distinctive part thereof or anything similar to a distinctive part
of the uniform of any of the armed services of the United States, Public Health Service or any
auxiliary of such, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.
Sec. 704. Military Medals or Decorations:
(a) In General. - Whoever knowingly wears, manufactures, or sells any decoration or medal
authorized by Congress for the armed forces of the United States, or any of the service medals
or badges awarded to the members of such forces, or the ribbon, button, or rosette of any such
badge, decoration or medal, or any colorable imitation thereof, except when authorized under
regulations made pursuant to law, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than
six months, or both.
(b) Congressional Medal of Honor:
(1) In general. - If a decoration or medal involved in an offense under subsection (a) is a
Congressional Medal of Honor, in lieu of the punishment provided in that subsection,
the offender shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than one year, or both.
(2) Definitions. - (A) As used in subsection (a) with respect to a Congressional Medal of
Honor, "sells" includes trades, barters, or exchanges for anything of value.
(3) As used in this subsection, "Congressional Medal of Honor" means a medal awarded
under section 2741, 6241, or 8741 of Title 10."
Author's commentary (See Notice Below):
Regarding 18 U.S.C. Sec. 702 and 704(a):
18 U.S.C. Sec. 3559(a)(7) provides that an offense having a maximum assessable term of
confinement of more than 30 days and less than 6 months is a Class B misdemeanor.
18 U.S.C. Sec. 3571(b)(6) provides that the maximum fine for a Class B misdemeanor not
resulting in death is $5,000 per count on which the Defendant is convicted.
Regarding 18 U.S.C. Sec. 704(b):
18 U.S.C. Sec. 3559(a)(6) provides that an offense having a maximum assessable term of
confinement of more than six months and less than one year is a Class A misdemeanor.
18 U.S.C. Sec. 3571(b)(5) provides that the maximum fine for a Class A misdemeanor not
resulting in death is $100,000 per count on which the Defendant is convicted.
http://veriseal.org/
Others...
http://www.navyfrogmen.com/phony.html
http://www.nightscribe.com/Military/...nabe_seals.htm
http://www.specialoperations.com/Phonies/
A couple of simple questions. If the individual can't answer them, chance are they are a fake.
Ask for:
Class number
Swim Buddy
Commanding officer
Platoon Officer
Laws on the books for pretenders...
Title 18 United States Code:
Sec. 702. Uniform of the armed services and Public Health Service:
Whoever, in any place within the jurisdiction of the United States or in the Canal Zone, without
authority, wears the uniform, or a distinctive part thereof or anything similar to a distinctive part
of the uniform of any of the armed services of the United States, Public Health Service or any
auxiliary of such, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.
Sec. 704. Military Medals or Decorations:
(a) In General. - Whoever knowingly wears, manufactures, or sells any decoration or medal
authorized by Congress for the armed forces of the United States, or any of the service medals
or badges awarded to the members of such forces, or the ribbon, button, or rosette of any such
badge, decoration or medal, or any colorable imitation thereof, except when authorized under
regulations made pursuant to law, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than
six months, or both.
(b) Congressional Medal of Honor:
(1) In general. - If a decoration or medal involved in an offense under subsection (a) is a
Congressional Medal of Honor, in lieu of the punishment provided in that subsection,
the offender shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than one year, or both.
(2) Definitions. - (A) As used in subsection (a) with respect to a Congressional Medal of
Honor, "sells" includes trades, barters, or exchanges for anything of value.
(3) As used in this subsection, "Congressional Medal of Honor" means a medal awarded
under section 2741, 6241, or 8741 of Title 10."
Author's commentary (See Notice Below):
Regarding 18 U.S.C. Sec. 702 and 704(a):
18 U.S.C. Sec. 3559(a)(7) provides that an offense having a maximum assessable term of
confinement of more than 30 days and less than 6 months is a Class B misdemeanor.
18 U.S.C. Sec. 3571(b)(6) provides that the maximum fine for a Class B misdemeanor not
resulting in death is $5,000 per count on which the Defendant is convicted.
Regarding 18 U.S.C. Sec. 704(b):
18 U.S.C. Sec. 3559(a)(6) provides that an offense having a maximum assessable term of
confinement of more than six months and less than one year is a Class A misdemeanor.
18 U.S.C. Sec. 3571(b)(5) provides that the maximum fine for a Class A misdemeanor not
resulting in death is $100,000 per count on which the Defendant is convicted.
05-28-2007, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BLACKSHARK
The newest law is called the stolen valor act.
05-28-2007, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CaseyEaterMach1
I think the law isn't for bullshiters more like if you lying on a job application about military services.
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05-28-2007, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by radz
Dont know about that one. But I had a briefing by a SEAL at one point and he told me that they dont acknowledge the existance of seal team 7. I would think anyone who made it into something like that 
(if it exists), then they probably woudlnt be blabing about it. But Im and AF guy, so what the hell do I know.
(if it exists), then they probably woudlnt be blabing about it. But Im and AF guy, so what the hell do I know.seal team 7 doesnt exist.......
05-28-2007, 11:39 PM
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If this guy is a STS- Sonar Tech Submarine- He is full of crap. That is the lamest job on a submarine, and he probably needs the fantasy of being a SEAL to keep from hanging himself. I wasn't a SEAL, I was just a knuckle dragging, wrench turning, bubblehead and I wouldn't have had it any other way. BTW I always thought the 3/8" ratchet flew better.
F'n Nuke MM2 (SS)
SSN-771
F'n Nuke MM2 (SS)
SSN-771
05-29-2007, 12:28 AM
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Out of all the SEALS and spec ops guys I know they don't brag about it. I only knew because I asked. They said, SEAL, Spec ops, ect ect and that was it.
If someone goes around braging about what they do when it comes to that kind of job they don't do it.
One guy I had no idea what he did in the NAVY untill I saw his BDU's.
If someone goes around braging about what they do when it comes to that kind of job they don't do it.
One guy I had no idea what he did in the NAVY untill I saw his BDU's.
05-29-2007, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Infantrymarine
A friggin' joke fellas! And a "pogue" probably more recognizable as pog, means Person Other than Grunt. A pencil pusher!!
05-29-2007, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by svenh44
Yeah i'm AF guy to. Was just wondering about this guy. He is aways going on and on about the seals since my wife told him i'm in the AF.
05-29-2007, 06:37 PM
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If he was a seal, his NEC would be 5326, unless he was a corpsman, then I believe it would be 1140, but don't quote me on that. I'm not sure if wall of shame is still up and running, but that's the best way to find out if a guy is a fake or not as the creators of that site are ex-frogmen and they call the BUD/S quarterdeck and have the students go through the book of all the class photos and find him. If he was a Team guy during the First gulf war though, he'd either be a Team 5 guy or Team 3 guy most likely. For everyone else, you can go through BUD/S to become a SEAL as an E-1,2,3,4,5,6 or O-1,2,3. Guys used to show up at a team all the time as an E-3, but most everyone enlisted that shows up is an E-4. Yes there is a Seal team 7. They share a building with Seal team 5. They've been around since 02 I believe.
