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Old 07-05-2011, 02:41 AM
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Default PT88/408 SS vs R1's, HPF Stage 4 M3 vs GT35R RX7, 04 Cobra vs 04 Cobra

http://www.streetfire.net/video/turb...04_2279448.htm

The SS had a better brake boost on first run with bikes. The RX7 dude said he races bikes, not cars?

The SS and M3 and some other fast cars might be running here soon.
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Originally Posted by Speeds8erM-1
http://www.streetfire.net/video/turb...04_2279448.htm

The SS had a better brake boost on first run with bikes. The RX7 dude said he races bikes, not cars?

The SS and M3 and some other fast cars might be running here soon.
The Camaro should have done better then that.
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??????? It was against liter bikes, not to mention he destroyed the stock one with heavier rider. He shifts slow (first races with the car), and the brake boost wasnt nearly as good on the second run as the first. I dont see how he should have done ALOT better, there is room for improvement though.
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Originally Posted by Speeds8erM-1
??????? It was against liter bikes, not to mention he destroyed the stock one with heavier rider. He shifts slow (first races with the car), and the brake boost wasnt nearly as good on the second run as the first. I dont see how he should have done ALOT better, there is room for improvement though.
Looked like he got raped and the older rider was a newb, I'm just saying he should have done better, with my 408 on 12 psi I raped busa's. That was with a th400. 6 speed should be pulling pretty hard up top.
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The other R1 had a 40 pound lighter rider and mods, both bikes started in second, the stock bike has a newer rider but it didnt wheelie or anything crazy, and he shifted without the clutch. Were you racing Gen 1 Busas with heavy riders? If your car trapped 142 on 15 psi, it was probably a bit less on 12 psi, and thats not enough to fugg with a well ridden gen 2 busa, let alone "rape them", unless you were racing fatass squid riders.
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Originally Posted by Speeds8erM-1
The other R1 had a 40 pound lighter rider and mods, both bikes started in second, the stock bike has a newer rider but it didnt wheelie or anything crazy, and he shifted without the clutch. Were you racing Gen 1 Busas with heavy riders? If your car trapped 142 on 15 psi, it was probably a bit less on 12 psi, and thats not enough to fugg with a well ridden gen 2 busa, let alone "rape them", unless you were racing fatass squid riders.
I was on stock rims, and 25.7 inch tires, leaving very very soft lol. I drove 5 hours to the track. So don't read to much into the sig. Even ran into the rev limiter because tires so short. As far as them starting in second. They would have pulled way harder leaving in first. I always went from first gear on mine from anything under 80 mph.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2hOh3oRXj0
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70 in first would have probably been a wheelie fest? I dunno, the stock one wants to try again starting in first, but you can clearly see with both bikes starting in second that one is way faster than the other.

Faster cars than this one have went down to similar modded R1's locally.
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Originally Posted by Speeds8erM-1
70 in first would have probably been a wheelie fest? I dunno, the stock one wants to try again starting in first, but you can clearly see with both bikes starting in second that one is way faster than the other.

Faster cars than this one have went down to similar modded R1's locally.
My busa wouldn't come up very often, my zx10 you had to be a little more careful but normally could keep it down.
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I think once the camaro turns up the wick and nails a good brake boost it will be closer...that r1 had a lot of mods. Hell, it's all bench racing at this point though. Hopefully a rematch will happen.
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never been on a busa or r1, but my buddies 07-08 gsxr 1000 with header, exhaust, 1 up/2 down sprockets, power commander, and i think he had the box that takes of the timing retard in the low gears was ******* insane. i weigh 220 and could throttle it up in third. i dont see how he did bad at all. any specs on heads, cam and intake on the camaro.
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I'd be pretty upset if I had a 408 with a 88 and made sub 700 (his boost setting was his choice). I plan to make more with a smaller motor and slightly smaller turbo. Just sayin
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i plan to make more with a bigger turbo lol
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Originally Posted by msydow
never been on a busa or r1, but my buddies 07-08 gsxr 1000 with header, exhaust, 1 up/2 down sprockets, power commander, and i think he had the box that takes of the timing retard in the low gears was ******* insane. i weigh 220 and could throttle it up in third. i dont see how he did bad at all. any specs on heads, cam and intake on the camaro.
The heads are "supposedly ported" but we have no idea for sure, cam specs Im unsure of, it has an LS6 intake. He got the car in a trade awhile back, had some stuff changed and rerouted on the turbo kit, changed to the Street Lites, and had it retuned.

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I'd be pretty upset if I had a 408 with a 88 and made sub 700 (his boost setting was his choice). I plan to make more with a smaller motor and slightly smaller turbo. Just sayin
This is the fastest car he has owned by 200+ rwhp lol, and he got it like this except for the changes mentioned above. He hasnt decided to turn it up yet, he has only raced it one time so far, and the car still has a 10 bolt.

I do make fun of him and call it the "400+ cubic inch, 88mm turbo LS1 that couldnt break out of the 600's".

Obviously turned up it will make alot more, but we have no idea if the previous owner told him correct things on the transmission or clutch, and the whole 10 bolt thing to worry about.
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Originally Posted by Speeds8erM-1
The heads are "supposedly ported" but we have no idea for sure, cam specs Im unsure of, it has an LS6 intake. He got the car in a trade awhile back, had some stuff changed and rerouted on the turbo kit, changed to the Street Lites, and had it retuned.



This is the fastest car he has owned by 200+ rwhp lol, and he got it like this except for the changes mentioned above. He hasnt decided to turn it up yet, he has only raced it one time so far, and the car still has a 10 bolt.

I do make fun of him and call it the "400+ cubic inch, 88mm turbo LS1 that couldnt break out of the 600's".

Obviously turned up it will make alot more, but we have no idea if the previous owner told him correct things on the transmission or clutch, and the whole 10 bolt thing to worry about.
Sounds to me like he still has 10k to spend to finish the car. These things aren't cheap.. I know that atleast.
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Not bad at all. Not trying to hop on the band wagon but the numbers on that 408 should be better. That was still good against a straight up R1 though and was somewhat keeping pace with the other R1 so alot of credit is due. That SS is making more than me and faster which I do envy lol. Nice

Did I remember seeing 3.23s in the SS???
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People say "should be better", but there arent alot of 408's running 88mm turbos on that low of boost to compare to, and most dont have LS6 intakes, or have a mystery camshaft either Im sure lol
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rofl at all this.... you cant please anyone! Yep, the car is a mystery parts wise for the most part, I suck at driving, the tranny and clutch feels terrible (as confirmed by about 8 other people), and I have full intentions of running the boost up, 9", and th400 swap. Should have done better huh, well that sucks then because I thought I did decent on my first time out on 9 psi and pump gas running slightly behind a largely modded r1. Not to mention how hard the other r1 fell off. And I was happy with the dyno numbers, made 699rwhp previous with open downpipe on a 96 degree day (so the sheet said) so after adding full exhaust and making 680rwhp I was pleased. Haters gonna hate though....

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Sounds to me like he still has 10k to spend to finish the car. These things aren't cheap.. I know that atleast.
Probably more haha. The car has stock suspension for the most part, BMR springs and Strange Singles in the back. Thats it lol. Well and Spohn Torque arm. No boost controller, etc... its going to add up fast. Plus it needs some body work and paint, unless I find a different clean title roller to swap over to.

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Originally Posted by Speeds8erM-1
People say "should be better", but there arent alot of 408's running 88mm turbos on that low of boost to compare to, and most dont have LS6 intakes, or have a mystery camshaft either Im sure lol
agreed, everyone starts somewhere and has different budgets. Sure with a ported fast, afr heads a custom blower cam and 18psi it would be a while different animal. Im sure there is a reason why he doesnt have that setup.... $$$$
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That motor would need a 175-200 shot to make what it's making on 9-10 psi right now, people dont realize that. It's kind of a waste to have that big of a motor and turbo to only make in the 600's, but it's not like thats all it's capable of.




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