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Old 06-26-2005, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Phoenix 2001
And what stock import runs 12's? Uh that would be non!!!! maybe 0-60, but not 1/4 mile.
Porsche
ferraris
lamborghinis
amg mercedes
acura nsx-T
acura nsx-R
maserrati
Jaguar xj
dinan m5
zonda
bugatti
koenigg
Mclaren

and about 60 others

<~~ expects reply to be: but,but,but I wasnt talking about cars like those
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Originally Posted by Phoenix 2001
This site is called LS1 tech for a reason, why? Its for LS1 powered vehicles only.. What does this mean? We don't give a damn if a non-powered LS1 vehicle runs 12's. More power to him and congrats, but wrong cite for someone to give a damn.

This video wasnt posted any of the tech sections of this site, it was posted in multimedia. where all pictures and videos that are work safe are permitted.whether its a suburban with a 50mm cannon, or a scion tc running consistent 12's. if you only came to ls1tech to see and discuss only ls1 powered cars stay in the tech section.
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Originally Posted by Gotboost??
Porsche
ferraris
lamborghinis
amg mercedes
acura nsx-T
acura nsx-R
maserrati
Jaguar xj
dinan m5
zonda
bugatti
koenigg
Mclaren

and about 60 others

<~~ expects reply to be: but,but,but I wasnt talking about cars like those
He was probably refering to Japanese cars, in which no Japanese car runs 12s from the factory.
The NSX-R runs low 13s BTW.
And most on your list average 13 seconds, like many Porsches, Ferraris, MBs, Maseratis, the only XJ jag that can break 13s is the XJ220, Dinan is a tuner, and does NOT make the M5.
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Originally Posted by JD_AMG
He was probably refering to Japanese cars, in which no Japanese car runs 12s from the factory.
The NSX-R runs low 13s BTW.
And most on your list average 13 seconds, like many Porsches, Ferraris, MBs, Maseratis, the only XJ jag that can break 13s is the XJ220, Dinan is a tuner, and does NOT make the M5.

So was your ws6 considered stock or not? because I know slp doesnt make cars
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Originally Posted by Gotboost??
What stock fbody has ever ran 12.1?
That car would put about 8 cars on a stock fbody and thats probably all he was trying to accomplish. not everyone wants to run 9's or to have all the headaches asscociated with a car that fast. just say congrats and move on.
Well, maybe not 12.1, but stock F-Bods have ran in the 12's.

Congrats! But it's still lame.
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Originally Posted by joblo1978
Well, maybe not 12.1, but stock F-Bods have ran in the 12's.

Congrats! But it's still lame.

Ok U said congrats now move on.
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Man im tryin to think of a jap car that does get 12's stock with out tricks. Is there any? The supra is close but i dont think that they were 12's. If there is any please remind me im drawin a blank!!!


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Say what you want, there is nothing like a V8!! Yes you have good times, but we on this site really don`t like cars like that. That`s why the name is LS1 tech. You know coming on this site you where going to get it alittle heat. It`s just all in fun!
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Originally Posted by Gotboost??
So was your ws6 considered stock or not? because I know slp doesnt make cars
SLP doesnt make the WS6, they make the Firehawk.
And yes, both would be considered stock being that it was an option from GM (and SLP actually built all F-bodies from 1996 on).
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Originally Posted by 99SS-T
Man im tryin to think of a jap car that does get 12's stock with out tricks. Is there any? The supra is close but i dont think that they were 12's. If there is any please remind me im drawin a blank!!!


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None do, the NSX is the closest though.

The "287hp gentlemens agreement" was probably the biggest factor keeping cars from running any faster.
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Wow. Ignorance is bliss.

A fast car is a fast car, no matter the wheels it turns or the size of the engine.

I'm a muscle car guy, always will be. There is nothing better in the world than the tire frying torque of a big cube V8. But to sit here and bitch and moan about a car that is clean, looks stock and runs bottom 12s is rediculous.

I know I drive a "ricer" and I make fun of myself for it, I still don't really like imports or the whole sport compact scene...Ironic I drive one, but its a good car until I'm done with school thats still fun to drive (albeit slow).

All I'm saying is, why is it so hard to give respect where respect is due?
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If you have nothing nice to say....don't say anything please. This forum is for multimedia, as Gotboost?? pointed out. If you don't like, you don't have to read it.
If you all want this forum to be LS1 cars/trucks ONLY, then all the other crap will have to go as well. This means all your funny vids, gun vids, girl vids, everything.

I have nothing wrong with the Scion. I'm actually considering one for a daily driver. Car enthusiasts shouldn't hate on each other based on what cars they drive. Some people, dare I say it, may LIKE the looks of the Scion and not the fbody! For shame someone buys what the LIKE, and mod it from there. Just because they don't fall into your cookie cutter, "I want a fast car, it HAS to be an American V8" mindset, doesn't make them any less of a person.

Now, keep the flames out of here, like the forum rules state.
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uh there have been a few EVO's that have dipped into the 12's bone stock.
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All of these cars are capable of low 13's maybe high 12's with drags:

Evo
Sti
Gen 3 mr2 turbo
Nsx
Supra
etc.

A performance car is defined by more that just straight line speed. Anyone of those cars listed above, would hand any stock ls1 there *** on a track and maybe 1/4 to.
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Originally Posted by 25psi
All of these cars are capable of low 13's maybe high 12's with drags:

Evo
Sti
Gen 3 mr2 turbo
Nsx
Supra
etc.

A performance car is defined by more that just straight line speed. Anyone of those cars listed above, would hand any stock ls1 there *** on a track and maybe 1/4 to.
I agree that performance is more than just strait line, but dont underestimate what an F-body can do...
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=1
Porsche Boxter S, S2000, BMW M Roadster, and MB SLK320 all get their asses handed to them on a silver platter...

(oh yeah, and a stock C5, which has an LS1, would run circles around the cars you listed)
BTW the MR2 Turbo will run mid 14s on a good day, not low 13s.
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Its a freakin Kia Sure its fast, I'll take the engine/tranny and put it in something else though

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A gen 3 mr2 turbo will run mid to low 13's, matter of fact, there faster than supras stock. Do a search on 96-99 mr2's. I will post up vid of a stock supra vs stock mr2.

http://www.japmobiles.com/cars/cars_detail.asp?ID=11

Also, where talking about a camaro not vette
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Originally Posted by JD_AMG
He was probably refering to Japanese cars, in which no Japanese car runs 12s from the factory.
The NSX-R runs low 13s BTW.
And most on your list average 13 seconds, like many Porsches, Ferraris, MBs, Maseratis, the only XJ jag that can break 13s is the XJ220, Dinan is a tuner, and does NOT make the M5.
sl65 amg runs 11's stock on standard tyres
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Originally Posted by Gotboost??
What stock fbody has ever ran 12.1?
That car would put about 8 cars on a stock fbody and thats probably all he was trying to accomplish. not everyone wants to run 9's or to have all the headaches asscociated with a car that fast. just say congrats and move on.
My stock F-Body ran 12.9 and have the vids to prove it.
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I agree with that is not the route most of us would have gone, but taking a 15-16 second car to 12's took some work and that deserves some respect. I dont see giant wings, no body kits or oversized amps and 25 speakers that adds 50 – 100 pounds or more weight to the car, no flashing neon lights... so that car to me is not rice. Rice to me would be taking a 15 -16 second car and making it go 14’s and have all of the above listed items and more. Running 12’s is not fast as it used to be, more of a standard it seems now in the domestic rear wheel drive side of things but is still impressive for the majority of import front wheel side of things.

Again, not the car I would have gone to or with, but over all it looks like a nice running car. But may be close to its limits. Good luck with it.



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