hughes vs gracie just in case no one saw
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First off, putting Gracie against Hughs is like putting Hulk Hogen against The Rock (NOT implying that WWF is even real, just an anology). Gracie is way past his prime. For god sake he looked like a starved Somolian in the fight. It was sad to see him like that. I still haven't seen anyone today that I believe would be able to take Gracie 10yrs ago.
Second, that Fedor vid is the first MMA fight I've ever seen too. IMO, that's stupid. Wild swinging and lucky lands that's all that is. If you like watching to pumped up overgrown high schoolers on speed having a swinging frenzy then you probably would like it. There's absolutely no style/control/form in what I just saw. I'm suprised no one's gotten killed doing that dumb ****.
Second, that Fedor vid is the first MMA fight I've ever seen too. IMO, that's stupid. Wild swinging and lucky lands that's all that is. If you like watching to pumped up overgrown high schoolers on speed having a swinging frenzy then you probably would like it. There's absolutely no style/control/form in what I just saw. I'm suprised no one's gotten killed doing that dumb ****.
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Second, that Fedor vid is the first MMA fight I've ever seen too. IMO, that's stupid. Wild swinging and lucky lands that's all that is. If you like watching to pumped up overgrown high schoolers on speed having a swinging frenzy then you probably would like it. There's absolutely no style/control/form in what I just saw. I'm suprised no one's gotten killed doing that dumb ****.
That being said, he moves too damn quick to get countered by even the best strikers. Mirko Crocop is believed by many to be the best striking heavyweight on the planet, a hugely successful K-1 convert with the most devastating high kick in the history of MMA. Fedor beat on him over three rounds and took a decision, outgassing and outstriking him the whole time.
Fedor's standup style is unconventional, like every Russians from Vovchanchin to Zentsov, but it works. The best heavyweights in the world have fought with Fedor and nobody save for Fujita has landed a solid, rocking blow on him. That counts for a lot more IMO than what his style looks like.
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Originally Posted by COMNBYU
First off, putting Gracie against Hughs is like putting Hulk Hogen against The Rock (NOT implying that WWF is even real, just an anology). Gracie is way past his prime. For god sake he looked like a starved Somolian in the fight. It was sad to see him like that. I still haven't seen anyone today that I believe would be able to take Gracie 10yrs ago.
Second, that Fedor vid is the first MMA fight I've ever seen too. IMO, that's stupid. Wild swinging and lucky lands that's all that is. If you like watching to pumped up overgrown high schoolers on speed having a swinging frenzy then you probably would like it. There's absolutely no style/control/form in what I just saw. I'm suprised no one's gotten killed doing that dumb ****.
Second, that Fedor vid is the first MMA fight I've ever seen too. IMO, that's stupid. Wild swinging and lucky lands that's all that is. If you like watching to pumped up overgrown high schoolers on speed having a swinging frenzy then you probably would like it. There's absolutely no style/control/form in what I just saw. I'm suprised no one's gotten killed doing that dumb ****.
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Fedor lucky? Sounds to me you can whoop his *** huh? It seems like you know so much about MMA. Just call out Fedor and show him how it really is brother! ![The Jester](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_jest.gif)
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That's right, lucky. L-U-C-K-Y in case I mis-typed the first time. Dude's not aiming for anything he's just rushing at the other person swinging wildly. It's only a matter of time of before someone else gets lucky and lands one on him that TKO's him.
And where did I say I could "whoop-his-***"? I was simply commenting on the MMA fighting since I've never seen it before.
It looks to me like a bunch of guys scared for their lives when they get in the ring. They look like they're fighting for their lives or something. No contact sport should be that intense. If you think that guys in the UFC don't hold back you're sadly mistaken. UFC guys don't look like they're trying to actually kill their opponent.
Futhermore, I wonder what's gonna happen when one day one of those wild punches lands on somebodies throat or temple. Or maybe MMA fighting is held in countries where they just wouldn't care...
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Originally Posted by COMNBYU
That's right, lucky. L-U-C-K-Y in case I mis-typed the first time. Dude's not aiming for anything he's just rushing at the other person swinging wildly. It's only a matter of time of before someone else gets lucky and lands one on him that TKO's him.
And where did I say I could "whoop-his-***"? I was simply commenting on the MMA fighting since I've never seen it before.
It looks to me like a bunch of guys scared for their lives when they get in the ring. They look like they're fighting for their lives or something. No contact sport should be that intense. If you think that guys in the UFC don't hold back you're sadly mistaken. UFC guys don't look like they're trying to actually kill their opponent.
Futhermore, I wonder what's gonna happen when one day one of those wild punches lands on somebodies throat or temple. Or maybe MMA fighting is held in countries where they just wouldn't care...
And where did I say I could "whoop-his-***"? I was simply commenting on the MMA fighting since I've never seen it before.
It looks to me like a bunch of guys scared for their lives when they get in the ring. They look like they're fighting for their lives or something. No contact sport should be that intense. If you think that guys in the UFC don't hold back you're sadly mistaken. UFC guys don't look like they're trying to actually kill their opponent.
Futhermore, I wonder what's gonna happen when one day one of those wild punches lands on somebodies throat or temple. Or maybe MMA fighting is held in countries where they just wouldn't care...
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Originally Posted by COMNBYU
That's right, lucky. L-U-C-K-Y in case I mis-typed the first time. Dude's not aiming for anything he's just rushing at the other person swinging wildly. It's only a matter of time of before someone else gets lucky and lands one on him that TKO's him.
And since you're dishing out all of these criticisms, what exactly is your training in a striking art? You better damn well say you're a boxer, because I can only picture a pure boxer making "swinging wildly" comments and hating on mixed martial arts as much as you are right now.
I was simply commenting on the MMA fighting since I've never seen it before.
It looks to me like a bunch of guys scared for their lives when they get in the ring. They look like they're fighting for their lives or something. No contact sport should be that intense. If you think that guys in the UFC don't hold back you're sadly mistaken. UFC guys don't look like they're trying to actually kill their opponent.
These guys are not scared, especially not Fedor. Nothing could be further from the truth. Fedor, like Royce Gracie, is the epitome of a cool and collected fighter. You have no idea what the **** you're talking about. Fedor is known for being a tranquil combatant, but a vicious fighter.
Futhermore, I wonder what's gonna happen when one day one of those wild punches lands on somebodies throat or temple. Or maybe MMA fighting is held in countries where they just wouldn't care...
UFC is MMA, and it's in America. I don't know where your definition mix-ups are coming from...
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Originally Posted by SSmokin99
"That left high kick is pathetic, my grandmother could kick faster and harder"
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Originally Posted by COMNBYU
Second, that Fedor vid is the first MMA fight I've ever seen too. IMO, that's stupid. Wild swinging and lucky lands that's all that is. If you like watching to pumped up overgrown high schoolers on speed having a swinging frenzy then you probably would like it. There's absolutely no style/control/form in what I just saw. I'm suprised no one's gotten killed doing that dumb ****.
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Fujita vs. Hunt would be awesome to see in the next round of the HWGP
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Fedor's standup style is unconventional, like every Russians from Vovchanchin to Zentsov, but it works. The best heavyweights in the world have fought with Fedor and nobody save for Fujita has landed a solid, rocking blow on him. That counts for a lot more IMO than what his style looks like.
Man I love Igor Vovchanchyn! He throws the gnarliest bombs ever and when they connect it's lights out. There's a reason his nickname is ice cold. He has one of the sickest KOs I've ever seen when he fought Francisco Bueno. He stalked him down, and first punch of the fight rocks him, following it up with some solid bombs. Bueno was out before he hit the canvas.
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I trained with Matt Hughes over the weekend(cool guy, loves to teach) I had a great time learning from one of the best MMA fighters in the world.
He said "Gracie was not as Impressive as I thought he would be, I was'nt impressed!The whole time we were fighting I was thinking, he was going to pull some magic trick move that no one has ever seen before" I guess Matt is human, even he has doubts !
great fighters are born , then molded by other great fighters! mjd
He said "Gracie was not as Impressive as I thought he would be, I was'nt impressed!The whole time we were fighting I was thinking, he was going to pull some magic trick move that no one has ever seen before" I guess Matt is human, even he has doubts !
great fighters are born , then molded by other great fighters! mjd
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Heres a video of rampage getting treated like a little girl...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...age%22+Jackson
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youtube.com has a shitload of fights w/gracie, belfort, sakuraba, etc. just use their search. royce gracie set the tone for what the ufc and mma is today. so he lost, everybody loses at some time or another.
check out the fight where belfort knocked out silva in 44 seconds!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TodD...itor%20belfort
*boxing is boring, mma is much more fun to watch!
check out the fight where belfort knocked out silva in 44 seconds!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TodD...itor%20belfort
*boxing is boring, mma is much more fun to watch!
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I called fedor the most "unconventional fighter I have ever seen"... When I first starting watching him, I honestly thought it WAS luck... now I realize, no he is just bad ***... He is rabid, you don't know what he is going to do, sure he comes at you swinging wildly, but he seems to NEVER run out of gas, and the minute you find yourself trying to defend his wild atacks is the minute you find yourself getting tossed(no matter how big you are) and then find yourself facing tapping out or you career ended with a broken arm...
rampage is just bad ***, its like he takes the WWE's moves and doesn't tell you how to land where it won't hurt, I like the one where he powerbombs they guy and then proceeds to knock him the f*ck out when he is dazed for that split second...
rampage is just bad ***, its like he takes the WWE's moves and doesn't tell you how to land where it won't hurt, I like the one where he powerbombs they guy and then proceeds to knock him the f*ck out when he is dazed for that split second...
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Beaflag, if you hate Hughes, you must despise Arona..
He's the most boring fighter I've ever seen in my life.
CWA, that is awesome, I would love to attend a Hughes seminar at some point while he's still fighting.
KillerKlown, a lot of people say that about Royce and I agree. He brought BJJ into world view as one of the best martial arts in the world. However, I personally believe that Kazushi Sakuraba is far more influential than any of the Gracies. He made MMA what it is today.
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CWA, that is awesome, I would love to attend a Hughes seminar at some point while he's still fighting.
KillerKlown, a lot of people say that about Royce and I agree. He brought BJJ into world view as one of the best martial arts in the world. However, I personally believe that Kazushi Sakuraba is far more influential than any of the Gracies. He made MMA what it is today.
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Originally Posted by nokeman
Heres a video of rampage getting treated like a little girl...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...age%22+Jackson
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...age%22+Jackson
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Fedor is a monster, for sure. I'd like to see him go with Tim Silvia or Andre.
Matt Hughs is the most arrogant, cocky man in MMA today. And, as stated earlier, he's freakin' boring to watch. While he does at least back up his attitude, I look forward to watching him get his *** handed to him, and I believe St. Pierre is the one to do it (as long as he doesn't hand him an arm bar again...).
Tito + Shamrock 2... Now, I hate Tito, and I was always a big KS fan, but come on man, after the beating he took last time he better bring a friend for this one.
Matt Hughs is the most arrogant, cocky man in MMA today. And, as stated earlier, he's freakin' boring to watch. While he does at least back up his attitude, I look forward to watching him get his *** handed to him, and I believe St. Pierre is the one to do it (as long as he doesn't hand him an arm bar again...).
Tito + Shamrock 2... Now, I hate Tito, and I was always a big KS fan, but come on man, after the beating he took last time he better bring a friend for this one.
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Fedor is a monster, for sure. I'd like to see him go with Tim Silvia or Andre.
Matt Hughs is the most arrogant, cocky man in MMA today. And, as stated earlier, he's freakin' boring to watch. While he does at least back up his attitude, I look forward to watching him get his *** handed to him, and I believe St. Pierre is the one to do it (as long as he doesn't hand him an arm bar again...).
Tito + Shamrock 2... Now, I hate Tito, and I was always a big KS fan, but come on man, after the beating he took last time he better bring a friend for this one.
Matt Hughs is the most arrogant, cocky man in MMA today. And, as stated earlier, he's freakin' boring to watch. While he does at least back up his attitude, I look forward to watching him get his *** handed to him, and I believe St. Pierre is the one to do it (as long as he doesn't hand him an arm bar again...).
Tito + Shamrock 2... Now, I hate Tito, and I was always a big KS fan, but come on man, after the beating he took last time he better bring a friend for this one.
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Originally Posted by Vendetta
Beaflag, if you hate Hughes, you must despise Arona..
He's the most boring fighter I've ever seen in my life.
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Originally Posted by bmfcamaro
sounded to me like gracie was the arrogant one in that fight.
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