My first motorcycle
Originally Posted by WS6VERT
beginner Busa owners are the worst to ride with... the only thing they can do is go straight, and good luck walkin away from it when u wreck.
Congrats!! Im on my second bike, 600rr and I love it!! But with my second kido arriving yesterday it just puts in perspective that I don't have **** for time to get good rides in anymore. By the way, are you in Vegas?
thanks for all the great replies everyone. I'm really enjoying my bike and have put 200 miles on it in 1 week of ownership (130 of them in 2 days 
)
I'm looking forward to getting through the break-in period so i can finally explore the RPM range. ( x<4k rpm sucks)
I'm in the bay area actually.
)I'm looking forward to getting through the break-in period so i can finally explore the RPM range. ( x<4k rpm sucks)
I'm in the bay area actually.
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Originally Posted by GTO JIMMY
Thanks for the kind words, dick.
back on topic... Thats an excellent starter bike... excellent balance of power, drivability, and durability. Also it will last forever and the resale is phenomenal. Thanks for taking the time to learn the right way.
Originally Posted by WS6VERT
Just speaking from experience man... something you obviously don't have. And I'm sorry to hate, but its noobs that think they can just jump on one of the fastest production bikes ever made (also the worst handling) and think they are instant Valentino Rossi's. It's these douches that are the reason insurance is through the freakin roof!
Well said. This is true, period. You will understand in time. These riders are also who give sportbike riders a bad name. Not trying to pick on anyone, its just a simple truth.
I always thinks its funny when you see the ones posting that the size of the starter bike doesnt matter, or that they needed a big bike because of thier size. They don't even realize that that statement alone is enough to show how inexperienced they are. The 500 the OP bought would easily seat a large person better than a race bike.
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let me try to make peace here. my first bike i learned on was 01 gsxr 1000 , sure it has tons of power but i respected the bike and took my time, in my opinion it comes down to control and maturity of the rider. All in all I think i will stay with my r6 for a long time.
Originally Posted by 1slogto
the first bike i ever rode was a busa the first bike i ever owned was an 02 r1 wich is now an 07 r1. It depends on the person getting the bike yes i have dropped a bike or 2 but i comes with the territory. Your gonna go down it just depends on how hard. I bought the 02 r1 in 03 and i just bought the 07 last month and ive only been down on my bike once. I say get the bike you want the first time.
This is true for ALL scenerios, including ones where you are riding responsibly yet you have some idiot in a cage force you to make a quick decision.
Thats the great thing about this sport though, it'll teach the newbs that think they are immune to physics one way or another. Most that jump right on a literbiker or bigger are simply after the image and not the thrill. And those type are always the first to give up when they fall of and scrape thier knee, not even realizing it happened because they were riding out of thier skill level. They do help keep a fresh supply of parts for those of us that actually use them.
Last edited by GTOpowered240sx; Jun 1, 2007 at 08:54 AM.
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Originally Posted by ramair6
let me try to make peace here. my first bike i learned on was 01 gsxr 1000 , sure it has tons of power but i respected the bike and took my time, in my opinion it comes down to control and maturity of the rider. All in all I think i will stay with my r6 for a long time.
The problem is that 99% of new riders think that they are in the 1% with the attitude it takes to jump right on a faster bike. And none have a clue what is needed to ride safe in traffic until they actually get some serious seat time. I've been riding sportbikes for 15 years now, and occationally I still pick up on something new.
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Originally Posted by GTOpowered240sx
The problem is that 99% of new riders think that they are in the 1% with the attitude it takes to jump right on a faster bike. And none have a clue what is needed to ride safe in traffic until they actually get some serious seat time.
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Look, it's completely 100% pure statistics. 60% of new rider wreck within the first six months, after that it drops dramatically.
I, almost guarantee, have more track time then any other member in this board. I have 350 hours of course training and instruction alone. I've seen it all happen from AMA to Moto GP Riders wrecking because they take it lightly, ect...
In my opinion, it dosen't matter how much time you have on a bike, but rather the mind set for the bike. A 1k or 1300/1400 are dangerous in the hands of new riders, BUT they are also dangerous with experienced riders too! Statistics show the more seat time you have, the less chance of wrecking are... So what if he bought a Busa, he isn't endangering me, I live some states away. I guarantee he knows that it's a powerful bike, and if he thinks that he can handle it, that's fine with me. If he keeps a level head and dosen't try to rail it until he can do so comfortably, then what's wrong with him doing that?
If you stay INSIDE your experience envelope, their typically isn't a problem. All you have to worry about are the thousands of idiots in cars/trucks. And it dosen't matter how good of a rider you are, if a car pulls out infront of you too close, that's going to end your riding season a little early.
On bikes you endanger yourself more than anyone else. He made the choice for HIS life, so he is accountable for HIS actions.. Who am I to tell him he's wrong or right!? It's not my call to make!
I, almost guarantee, have more track time then any other member in this board. I have 350 hours of course training and instruction alone. I've seen it all happen from AMA to Moto GP Riders wrecking because they take it lightly, ect...
In my opinion, it dosen't matter how much time you have on a bike, but rather the mind set for the bike. A 1k or 1300/1400 are dangerous in the hands of new riders, BUT they are also dangerous with experienced riders too! Statistics show the more seat time you have, the less chance of wrecking are... So what if he bought a Busa, he isn't endangering me, I live some states away. I guarantee he knows that it's a powerful bike, and if he thinks that he can handle it, that's fine with me. If he keeps a level head and dosen't try to rail it until he can do so comfortably, then what's wrong with him doing that?
If you stay INSIDE your experience envelope, their typically isn't a problem. All you have to worry about are the thousands of idiots in cars/trucks. And it dosen't matter how good of a rider you are, if a car pulls out infront of you too close, that's going to end your riding season a little early.
On bikes you endanger yourself more than anyone else. He made the choice for HIS life, so he is accountable for HIS actions.. Who am I to tell him he's wrong or right!? It's not my call to make!
[/QUOTE=1Slogto]the first bike i ever rode was a busa the first bike i ever owned was an 02 r1 wich is now an 07 r1. It depends on the person getting the bike yes i have dropped a bike or 2 but i comes with the territory. Your gonna go down it just depends on how hard. I bought the 02 r1 in 03 and i just bought the 07 last month and ive only been down on my bike once. I say get the bike you want the first time.[/QUOTE]
That's the dumbest ******* thing I've heard! Dropping a bike does NOT come with the territory!! It's how you ride and the ability of the rider. I've never been down and have been riding for 20+ years. And, trust me, I ride hard!! Ever think why you've been down multiple times already? Idiot. Guy's like you give the sportbikers a bad rap. Starting off riding should be on something controllable; not a 'Busa, R1, or ZX10. These bikes are far to powerful for someone with no experience (think about that dick, Rich on Pinks!!! ). Can people do it? Sure. Is it recommended? Most people would say no. Gain your experience on something that you have more control over.
OK - I'm done
That's the dumbest ******* thing I've heard! Dropping a bike does NOT come with the territory!! It's how you ride and the ability of the rider. I've never been down and have been riding for 20+ years. And, trust me, I ride hard!! Ever think why you've been down multiple times already? Idiot. Guy's like you give the sportbikers a bad rap. Starting off riding should be on something controllable; not a 'Busa, R1, or ZX10. These bikes are far to powerful for someone with no experience (think about that dick, Rich on Pinks!!!
). Can people do it? Sure. Is it recommended? Most people would say no. Gain your experience on something that you have more control over. OK - I'm done
Last edited by BAD2000TA; Jun 1, 2007 at 10:49 AM.
Originally Posted by WS6VERT
Just speaking from experience man... something you obviously don't have. And I'm sorry to hate, but its noobs that think they can just jump on one of the fastest production bikes ever made (also the worst handling) and think they are instant Valentino Rossi's. It's these douches that are the reason insurance is through the freakin roof!
back on topic... Thats an excellent starter bike... excellent balance of power, drivability, and durability. Also it will last forever and the resale is phenomenal. Thanks for taking the time to learn the right way.
back on topic... Thats an excellent starter bike... excellent balance of power, drivability, and durability. Also it will last forever and the resale is phenomenal. Thanks for taking the time to learn the right way.
You obviously have a lot of anger towards new riders for some stupid ******* reason, it's douches like you that take the fun out of things. And on another note I dont go throwing it through the corners, zooming in and out of traffic, none of that stupid **** you probably do. So who makes the insurance higher?
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Originally Posted by GTO JIMMY
How do you know what kind of experience I have? I said I am new to crotch rockets not bikes in general! Im glad you were quick to ASSume that I am a noob who thinks I can just jump on the "fastest production bike" and be a pro.
You obviously have a lot of anger towards new riders for some stupid ******* reason, it's douches like you that take the fun out of things. And on another note I dont go throwing it through the corners, zooming in and out of traffic, none of that stupid **** you probably do. So who makes the insurance higher?
You obviously have a lot of anger towards new riders for some stupid ******* reason, it's douches like you that take the fun out of things. And on another note I dont go throwing it through the corners, zooming in and out of traffic, none of that stupid **** you probably do. So who makes the insurance higher?
Maybe you didnt catch the part where I ride at a track (where throwing it through corners keeps u and others safe)... I hinted at it in a later post, must've gone over your noob head. Also... true track bikes can't be insured so if ya wreck them at the track then there is no harm done except to yourself.
And now you get yours:
If you have a BUSA, and say...
Originally Posted by GTO JIMMY
Well I didnt want a 600 due to the fact that I am 6'3 220lbs and I knew I would get bored with it quick. Now the Busa on the other hand.... WOW.
oh and this proves it too...
Originally Posted by GTO JIMMY
I definately respect the bike a lot, I have taken it up to 178mph one time though
Originally Posted by WS6VERT
I disagree its those people that I have witnessed riding with no experience at all, that nearly kill themselves and others and then try to laugh and joke about it later like they were proud of it that I dont care too much for. It is these people that give true motorcycle enthusiasts a bad name.
Maybe you didnt catch the part where I ride at a track (where throwing it through corners keeps u and others safe)... I hinted at it in a later post, must've gone over your noob head. Also... true track bikes can't be insured so if ya wreck them at the track then there is no harm done except to yourself.
And now you get yours:
If you have a BUSA, and say...
then you are a noob that is obviously not riding around like grandma on the street.
oh and this proves it too...
so seeing as how you SAID you were a noob, and obviously are riding the bike hard on the streets (because we can all tell you are not a track racer by your bike of choice and your comments) then U! are definitely endangering yourself and MANY MANY others. Not me! "Can I get a witness!?"
Maybe you didnt catch the part where I ride at a track (where throwing it through corners keeps u and others safe)... I hinted at it in a later post, must've gone over your noob head. Also... true track bikes can't be insured so if ya wreck them at the track then there is no harm done except to yourself.
And now you get yours:
If you have a BUSA, and say...
then you are a noob that is obviously not riding around like grandma on the street.
oh and this proves it too...
so seeing as how you SAID you were a noob, and obviously are riding the bike hard on the streets (because we can all tell you are not a track racer by your bike of choice and your comments) then U! are definitely endangering yourself and MANY MANY others. Not me! "Can I get a witness!?"
Originally Posted by WS6VERT
I disagree its those people that I have witnessed riding with no experience at all, that nearly kill themselves and others and then try to laugh and joke about it later like they were proud of it that I dont care too much for. It is these people that give true motorcycle enthusiasts a bad name.
Maybe you didnt catch the part where I ride at a track (where throwing it through corners keeps u and others safe)... I hinted at it in a later post, must've gone over your noob head. Also... true track bikes can't be insured so if ya wreck them at the track then there is no harm done except to yourself.
And now you get yours:
If you have a BUSA, and say...
then you are a noob that is obviously not riding around like grandma on the street.
oh and this proves it too...
so seeing as how you SAID you were a noob, and obviously are riding the bike hard on the streets (because we can all tell you are not a track racer by your bike of choice and your comments) then U! are definitely endangering yourself and MANY MANY others. Not me! "Can I get a witness!?"
Maybe you didnt catch the part where I ride at a track (where throwing it through corners keeps u and others safe)... I hinted at it in a later post, must've gone over your noob head. Also... true track bikes can't be insured so if ya wreck them at the track then there is no harm done except to yourself.
And now you get yours:
If you have a BUSA, and say...
then you are a noob that is obviously not riding around like grandma on the street.
oh and this proves it too...
so seeing as how you SAID you were a noob, and obviously are riding the bike hard on the streets (because we can all tell you are not a track racer by your bike of choice and your comments) then U! are definitely endangering yourself and MANY MANY others. Not me! "Can I get a witness!?"
And you know what else I would love to go ride at a track that would be a blast but I really dont have the time to set aside to do that. So im sorry ******* sue me.
My unit is deploying in a couple months and **** has been crazy down here trying to cram **** in to get ready to go. The only chance I get to ride is a little bit on saturday afternoons.
My unit is deploying in a couple months and **** has been crazy down here trying to cram **** in to get ready to go. The only chance I get to ride is a little bit on saturday afternoons.
Originally Posted by WS6VERT
someone's a lil butt hurt...