PhillyLS1

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My 05 SRT-4 ran 13.63 on street tires at 101mph
My 03 SRT-4 ran 13.2 on street tires with a wastegate and filter.

I also have a Cobalt SS in the driveway. The SRT-4 is the better car for the money. However money aside the Cobalt is more refined and handles almost as good as my corvette.

hugger1975

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:-)
cant wait!

and another lsx?
you are as bad as me!

hugger1975

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damn those fast srt's!
to what do you srt guys think is owed to the better times posted?
sure there are guys on the cobalt forum in the low 13's but of the 2 srt guys who posted here, both are low 13's

cobalt has more power and is as pretty light.
not bein ignorant or doubting.....just a curious car guy

hell, i wish i knew why i cant get out of the high 11's in my z

boosteddakota

i actually had a blast driving my friends saturn redline. that was a decent car. not crazy fast but turned some heads when they were least expecting it.

boosteddakota

and i got pulled over in my srt4 the day i bought it. it had 11 miles on it. the cop stopped me for loud exhaust. i had to go to court 3 times for that. i needed a decimal readout, a letter from the dealer stating it was factory and from the dodge rep. i hated having a car that was new around town and cops had no clue what it was!!

NeedaV8foundation

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yea i actually have a internship that pays out really well that im doing over the summer. im gonna sell the lightning at the end and buy either of the following... 06 CTS-V, 02ish FRC, an SS or WS6, or if i break down enough a 03/04 termi. but we'll see my budget is around 18k

hugger1975

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cant go wrong with any of those!

camaro98z28

I think I'll have to lower mine to get rid of the wheelhop. It was fn dangerous. Almost makes me want to stop racing it at the track.

PhillyLS1

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The cobalt has more power on a brochure. My SRT-4 dyno'd 237hp 257tq at the wheels. Its also easier to launch and the car communicates to the driver better. The SRT-4 is lighter by about 60lbs as well.

Dodge also has a long history of making quick turbo compacts then GM.

hugger1975

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thanks filly.
i love how the under rate these turbo cars


with the launch out of theway, im assuming that why its a driver race from a roll.
the cobalt is a biznitch to get under 2.3 consistantly.

lilbuddy1587

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You sir are in fairy land. The SRT is a great ride but it was never considered a mid 13 second car. It's a bottom 14, HIGH 13 second car, with some dipping into the mid and low 13's (negative DA, spring mod and other **** that people don't want to mention). Honestly, to spew that kind of crap is like everyone else saying the LS1 F-bodies are all high 12 second cars.

Not only is the Cobalt faster (Trap speeds) but it's just as quick. It's also a much better track car platform and now that the ECU is slowly but surely being unlocked, you can expect MUCH faster LNFs. Bolt on vs Bolt on, LNF wins. Big turbo vs Big turbo, SRT takes the cake, for now.

GM rated these cars under strict SAE guidelines, Dodge never did that with the SRT. It's HP/TQ are extremely underrated. The SRT is also not a victim to the terrible, lame *** nanny features that GM built into these cars, IE Air load limits, all kinds of TQ management, restrictions in the clutch/clutch reservoir etc. etc.

SRfastZ

nice DD and good times for a stock cobalt

PhillyLS1

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The SRT will win from a roll as well, the SRT-4's trap higher and it isn't a twin scroll turbo.

hugger1975

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how does a car with less hp an tq at similiar weight trap and et the same?

i was on yer side up till that but now i see you are biased and an srt nuthugger.


i trapped almost 104 fwiw.......
even though we dissagree, i still lke the srt BUT they are not pulling away fron the ss/tc from any roll......

260>220

DiscerningZ32

I hope Philly LS1 is either leaving something out or joking. I really hope he isn't trying to say he ran a mid 13 at over 100mph in a stock srt 4. Also, the highest I've seen a stock neon dyno (without those stupid mopar stages) is 220 at the wheels on a dynometer with the customer satisfaction setting bumped to the max. I'm also curious to know what he's talking about when he says "Dodge also has a long history of making quick turbo compacts then GM." The obvious grammatical error aside, this statement still makes no sense. Care to elaborate?

PhillyLS1

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I'm a nuthugger?

Put a cobalt on a dyno and have your heart broken. In many cases they dyno LESS then an SRT-4 especially on Mustang dynos. And they aren't "Similar Weight" The SRT-4's are lighter by around 60 to 100lbs. The power comes in in different places and the gearing is different.

I also own BOTH an SRT-4 and a Cobalt SS/TC. So blow me with the nut hugger bullshit fanboi.

I've never seen a stock SRT-4 dyno less then 229hp. Again, mine dyno 237hp and 257tq on a MUSTANG dyno.
I'm not joking. The joke's on you:
http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f28/...rt-4-a-318602/

60ft- 2.10
1/8- 8.82
1/4- 13.631
1/4mph 101.77

temp was
45 degrees
54% hum
30.39 barometer



There are multiple people running close to that number. That thread was made in 2006 before this pissing match.

OMG you got me. I used then instead of than

How many turbo cars besides the GN/Turbo T/A has GM made that were worth a ****?
Dodge had the GLHS, the Shadow, the IROC. These were all cars far ahead of their time and it showed in how the NSRT-4 was produced. The Cobalt SC is a piece of junk and it took GM years to get it right with the T/C.

So there, I elaborated.

hugger1975

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why do you include the camaro and vetet in your sig but not the cobalt?

ever line up the cobalt and srt?

you must have missed where i said i like the srt. becasue someone comes in here leaning very much toward the srt in every inconceivable way (and neglects to include the fact they own a cobalt in their sig) it easy to assume they are a fanboi.
forgive me.

only part that catche my eye is that you said they dyno higher especially on a mustang dyno? wtf does it matter what type of dyno? higher is higher and that statement makes me wonder if you know what you are talkign about.

either way, id love to see a stock vs stock lineup. im gona check it out later.
im man anought to eat my words

DiscerningZ32

So let me summarize your posts for you.
-You comment as if running mid 13's in a stock SRT 4 is the norm
-You think all srt4s dyno atleast 229 to the wheels
-You honestly think an SRT 4 is quicker than an SS T/C
-You consider a turbo Shadow, GLHS, and IROC to be quick cars
-You've owned two SRT 4's and have the name "WantaBlueSRT4" on another forum.

You sir, are a nutswinging fanboy. Deny it all you want.

PhillyLS1

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Yes. And my SRT-4 pulled. In fact I've never lost to an Cobalt TC or SC. I'll update my sig.

It is the norm. Unfortunately the SRT-4 world is full of idiots who can't drive. The average time is a 13.7 and over 101

That's not a typo there is it grammar boy?

Well since the stock record for a Cobalt SS is slower than the stock record for a SRT-4? Yeah. I kinda do.

For their time they were. And again they were ahead of their time. Considering you didn't answer a direct question and this is the best you can come up with.

Wow, you're a moron. My name on SRTForums is PhillyLS1. Try reading numbskull.

Well I own both, so I can be whatever I want. It comes with the territory.

DiscerningZ32

The turbo dodges were not quick for their time, and you didn't say quick for their time; you said quick. I could care less how many turbo cars GM or doge has made, they both aren't very good at it. The chrysler K engine was crap and the A855 is crap. I would not call the POS K engine proof that dodge knows how to make a turbo I4. There's also nothing like a partially open-deck block on the A855.
Also, comparing quickest times of cars proves nothing. When comparing the average times of both cars, the cobalt is quicker.
Maybe you're not a fanboy. Maybe you're just a troll for jumping into someone else's thread and posting crap about your own cars to try and prove some point. SRT4 owners.