Ok, gonna try to sum this up for all of you that wanna know what happened. Paid chris for the cam on Aug 7th, never got any tracking, I was told by him it was sent out through the postal service without tracking, so I tried to trust him, but after not receiving the cam or tracking for almost a month, my patience had run out. Everything he told me I couldn’t get verified by the post office here or in FL so I thought he was lying. So I filed the claim through paypal on Sept 1st I believe. After I filed the claim Chris gave them a tracking number but it was not for the cam, it was supposedly for the paperwork proving the post office lost the cam and then got it back to Chris, problem is, when it came in, it was an empty box, no paperwork, so I still have no proof he ever even shipped the cam in the first place. Also, him giving paypal the tracking for the box, even if he thought the paperwork was in it, was kinda shady cause paypal believed it was the tracking for the cam, and he should have known they would think that. Once I got the empty box in, paypal basically told me they were going to close the claim since I received “something” and my claim is for “non-reciept” meaning I hadn’t received anything. They said I’d have to file another claim for “Not as described” for them to help me. (but they wouldn’t accept a claim for that in this case cause it wasn’t an ebay item or some BS) So at this point I felt fucked, and I prolly would have been if Chris wouldn’t have sent Paypal an email instructing them to refund my money. So basically in the end, Chris came through and did the right thing. Due to how shady and weird this transaction went, I would never buy from Chris again but I don’t feel he is a bad guy, maybe just a bad seller. I understand no ones perfect, me included, but when people buy stuff from me i get it shipped out same day (or next day at the latest) and email/pm them the tracking the second i get back from shipping the part. When i buy stuff from people i expect similar conduct from them. I mean i dont think expecting a tracking number within a week is asking too much? At this point, dont get me wrong, although i feel Chris is a bad seller, he is not a bad person, paypal dropped the ball bad and i believe he could have kept my money and gotten away with it if he wouldn't have sent paypal an email telling them to refund my money. So i appreciate Chris doing the right thing in the end.

 

Thats was damn nice of you Raptor.
Like I said I am sure Chris will come through, and I will watch this and make sure of it as he is a friend and I wan't to make sure he is doing the right thing for you.
I have good feedback as you can see and will stick up for him personially.
Chris is a standup person and I can promise you he isn't out to screw anyone, hopefully he can fix this mess and in a hurry.

 

If JZ had any doubt in his mind, he would not have risked a great reputation that he has.

 

i can vouch for chris to and i have done plenty of business on here also .... i bought about 600bucks worth of parts from chris earlier this year recieved it all within a week

 

It looks as if it's gonna get settled soon. I should have my money back sometime next week

 

good to hear

 

still dont have my money. Chris said he sent them an email saying they could refund the money, but they said they never got any email, plus they told me he could process the refund at any time on thier site, he didn't need them to do it. So this is looking pretty shady once again. Hopefully chris didn't know that he could do the refund on his own, but that still doesn't explain why they didn't get the email he said he sent. EDIT: NOW I KNOW HE LIED AND IS TRYING TO SCREW ME. THE BOX HE SENT THAT HE SAID WAS GONNA HAVE THE POST OFFICE PAPERWORK IN, IS TOTALLY EMPTY. HE SENT ME AN EMPTY BOX SO PAYPAL WOULD THINK HE SENT THE CAM!

 

Chris I don't know the whole story here, but if you sent him a empty box then that's messed up buddy.
Do the right thing here and put yourself back into the buyer's shoe's.
He paid for a item and didn't recieve it. It's not his fault that if it got lost in shipping, if your dog ate the cam, or if David Copperfield made the cam a real "magic stick". The fact is he paid and recieved nothing.
Cut him a refund, as it isn't that much money and settle the lost shipping with the shipper, your mom, or whoever caused the shipment to get screwed.
I know your not out to screw anyone, but one bad transaction can really hurt a good rep. The negative has happened as it does from time to time with everyone, it's how you handle it that seperates that winner's from the losers.

 

Here is a link to the latest.... Hopefully tim can have some faith and a bit of patience. I am unable to do anything until pay-pal closes the claim. No matter what happens, Tim will get his money back!!!!!!



http://www.need2speed.com/vb_forums/...703#post355703

 

I want to get this over with ASAP, but until pay-pal makes there move, I am stuck. I talked to tim after he mad this post and I hope that he can have a bit of trust in me. I am taking the lose, and I am doing what any honest human being would do. If I was going to screw anyone, I would have disapeared along time ago.

I guess I have to go back to trusting JZ to ship all my parts again, really sucks that I have to drive an hour to make sure everything goes like it is suppose to, I cant even trust my damn family to do the right thing. I find out today after asking "what exactly was shipped" while Tim was on the phone. The empty box was SUPPOSE to be all the papersfrom the post office to prove I wasn't lying about that.... Guess that went right out the window. Now I am being told it was a shipping reciept, when I was told all the paper work was sent off. Both Tim and I have also lost faith in the pay-pal sytem, I will never use them again if they process the refund to me. I am sure Tim will update this when later action is took!

 

I did talk to Chris earlier on the phone, i've been at work all day, all i can say is I DID receive an empty box and every other thing that has happened with the transaction has looked very shady, i've never had a purchase look worse than this one truthfully, everything make chris look like he was trying to **** me, but, i'm 99% sure that Chris could have kept my money, BUT he contacted paypal and told them to process the refund, so IT SHOULD be done by tomorrow. All i can say is that i've never had someone un-intentionally screw me as hard as Chris has with this cam deal, so i still have a hard time believing that he told the truth from the beginning, but hey i could be wrong. Once the refund goes through i'll update this.

 

I will just be happy once this all gets worked out. This is gone to be my last and only set-back. I am waiting to hear some feedback from some members on this site about the new shipping deal I hooked onto. I have another member on hear that I have to give a refund to because I was unable to locate some parts that he was wanting and I wont just send him aftermarket crap. Still waiting for some contact info from 1 member on this site to process a few things with and another member on this site who was the first person I dealt with after the new shipping option came forth. Like I said before, I could flood this thread with people that have dealt with me in the past and people who know me personally. Everyone knows I am a stand up guy, and I only do things with good intension's. It is hard for you to see that due to everything that has happened. If I had any intesion on screwing you at all, it would have been on our last deal, that is here I gave you brand new, still in the box GM parts fro dirt cheap. It is hard for anyone to beat the deals that I give out, I have great feedback (more so on other sites), I always stay in contact with the buyer no matter the situation, in which I did here. Hopefully pay-pal pulls through for the for the both of us.

 

Yes, HOPEFULLY. At this point i'm so fed up with paypals ignorance, i will probably never use them again. A heads up to others that might get in a similar situation. Dont trust paypal to work everything out, it seems they are pretty easy to get around i found out the hard way. I'm not going into specifics cause i dont wanna help scammers know how to get over on paypal.

 

I think both you and I need to call and harrass them about there situation.... Def. needs soem bugs to work out but its not as easy as some may think it is to work over pay-pal. I do believe a more secure way of internet transaction should be brought forth.

 

I finally got my money back through paypal. As shady as transaction has gone down i refuse to believe that Chris has been honest with me the whole time. But i got my money back so thats all that matters to me. Personally i will never do business with him again, if you guys wanna take the chance that is up to you. The way i look at this is that even IF he didnt lie to me, he handled this transaction very poorly and IMO is not a good seller, that is why i will never purchase from him in the future. I understand no ones perfect, me included, but when people buy stuff from me i get it shipped out same day (or next day at the latest) and email/pm them the tracking the second i get back from shipping the part. When i buy stuff from people i expect similar conduct from them. I mean i dont think expecting a tracking number within a week is asking too much? At this point, dont get me wrong, although i feel Chris is a bad seller, he is not a bad person, paypal dropped the ball bad and i believe he could have kept my money and gotten away with it if he wouldn't have sent paypal an email telling them to refund my money. So i appreciate Chris doing the right thing in the end.

 

i see no excuse.

but glad everything worked out, even if a month+ later.

 

i dont think thats fair to say hes a bad seller because of a mix up a bad seller wouldnt have tried to get your money back to ya. Im glad you got taken care of though and you are entitled to your opinion but i just dont think thats right, he got me about 600$ worth of parts in less than a week and i would do business with him again in a heartbeat. Chris is a great guy and i have talked to him on the phone many times discussing options and what all i would need for projects on my car when i was trying to decide what i wanted to do. Just want people to know that he his a good guy and would never intentionally screw anyone.

 

Many will share your opinion, this isnt the first time Tim has dealt with me. He bought a set of valve covers from me right around the 4th of july. He recieved his parts but shipping took a bit longer then expected. He OPINIONS are merely brought forth due to a set-back. I have since worked out the new shipping options since I no longer live close enough to JZ to have him ship everything for me. I am waiting on a few member to give me feedback on the new shipping set-up which will automatically send the tracking numbers through e-mail as soon as the shipping is set-up.

 

No a scammer wouldn't have tried to get me my money back, just cause i got my money back doesn't make him a good seller and it doesn't mean everything is just fine. I still dont believe he handled the transaction well, and i believe i was lied to about some things. I cant prove he lied, that's why i will just say i believe i was lied to. That is why i wouldn't buy from him again, not just because of a stupid delay in shipping. He took too long to ship me the valve covers i bought from him in the past, but i didn't hold that against him, i tried to buy from him again with this cam purchase. It's not the long shipping wait, it's the possible deception that bothers me. And like you said, everyone's entitled to their own opinion, so if you feel confortable buying from him, then do so, i'm merely stating that i do not.

 

thats cool i understand your reasoning, just wanted people to know how my transactions went with chris and that he was a good guy