thats shitty for around 3 grand you can get a used 408 shortblock with stock top end will make just as much power

alot of those prices and "performance parts" are stupid as fuc!<

 

Which ones are "stupid as fuc"? Besides the maf and bellows?

 

cai,ported tb,rockers,pushrods,ewp,watts link,stb

 

My brother and I did some testing on a few performance parts, including descreening the maf, port and polished TB, CAI, and skinny wheels on the front, with back to back runs after each install. I think you might find it a little suprising. Check it out.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/L...ing_643805.htm

 

it says budget mods and you put 450 for an ls6 intake 1000$ rockers 650$ewp

the only budget mods left will be ud pulley, elec cutout, suspension and nitrous IMO

 

WOW that sucked well i have a 200$ slp intake ill sell for 125 shipped if it does that much what a car and a half who wants a car and a half for 125$

 

a car and a half can be a tenth in the quarter.

cutout would be dumb on true duals unless you have hard caps for mufflers.

 

Everybody's Budget is different. I put up that list so he could see what is available and how much it costs. He didn't even know what a CAI was. LOL, anyone can argue back and forth as to what they think is a well worth it mod, I'm just giving him info to build on and research instead of taking every Tom, Dick, and Harry's advice on what is the "right" mods he should do.

 

btw where you useing spare tires as skinny's?

 

Yeah, my brother was convinced that skinnies did nothing for improving acceleration, So I bet him if I ran our spare tires in the front that my car would be faster, thats why we only did a run to about 65mph that time. I'm all for them now, I think I'm going to go with Bogart.

 

THe bolded items are not need and in some cases actually hurt performance. CAI have been debated back and forth they lids flow just fine, I have had two cars make over 500hp with a SLP lid. K&N filters have been shown in many threads not to flow any better than paper and if over oiled can gum up the maf, they also dont filter as good. Leave the Fing MAF alone!! The stock one will support up to 500hp no need to change it if you arent there yet.. Below=crap!. Rocker arms way too much money for the gains and if you ever go to an aftermarket cam you are going to have to switch back to 1.7's anyways!!! Electric water pumps are nice and there are gains to be had but for the money you could also get a full nitrous set up.. 160 thermostat isnt going to offer any gains and ca lead to increased carbon build up because the engine wont get into its proper operating temps. Strut tower braces in these cars are useless call strano if you dont believe me. K members and A-arms are great for autocrossing but should be some of the last things you change out on your car after EVERYTHING else is aftermarket.

 

That has to be some of the worst testing conditions for mods. First you gusy race two different cars with two different mods, different sized people in the cars, and two different drivers. You then take stock parts off his car and switch them with modified parts from your car. You when you guys did your first race you had a P&P TB the maf, and the others, you then put stock parts back on your car. To make your test even a bit more realistic you would have to had left your car alone exactly the way you raced him the first time and then changed parts out on his car. DYNO runs would be the best way to prove gains..

 

slp cold air works good , id get that

 

It doesn't matter if the cars were different or the same. The testing shows a difference in what the mods do for your acceleration. Even if one of the cars was a Corvette, or a Civic, as we did each mod, you would still see how much you would gain or lose by how much distance was put comparatively. They don't have to be the exact same car to see what difference it can make in your acceleration, LOL.

Second, what does the different drivers have to do with anything? As long as we were consistant in our driving/ shifting, all variables would stay the same, except for the different mods which was the only variable we wanted to change in order to see differences in acceleration.

Third, we did not switch parts for the CAI or putting skinnies on the front which was our two main focuses. We just threw in switching mafs and throttle bodies because the majority of people were saying that if you descreened the maf/ ported your throttle body or even if you didn't, there wouldn't be any noticable gains at all. Well, from the video you can see that those two mods can affect your acceleration, whether it be positive or negative.

Finally, I know we could have got on a dyno and done some pulls to see gains/ losses, but what would that translate to on the road? I know I see that this such and such mod makes such and such more hp, but those numbers on a computer screen don't really translate to a lot of people to what it will actually do to their car's acceleration. Thats why I wanted to run a test like this one. Optimally, like you said, I would have liked not to have to switch mods because it skewed accuracy on the data for the maf and TB, but ultimately it showed a difference which is something not many expected. The majority I've talked to on this site have said because we "switched" parts, instead of adding them, the gains would be roughly half of what you saw on the video. So the actual gain of the descreened maf would have been about 3/4 of a car rather than a car and a half if we would have started out being both screened and then descreened one car. And then the same for the TB, both starting with stock, and then adding the ported TB to the test car, about 3/4 of a car, rather than a car and a half.

I can't convince anyone on what to think, that wasn't my goal. All I can do is present the data I've collected and try to answer any questions to clear up discrepancies.

 

Blue knight my point is that you in theory doubled the gains seen by descreen the maf and the tb by switching them. Your car had them for the trial run so in the baseline your car was slow with the modified parts. Not only did you put modified part on the already faster car you in doing so slowed down your car as well with stock parts making the difference greater. To make your test more accurate you would have had to leave you car the exact way it was run in the first race in order to see the true difference in performance. Fair enough I though the video was pretty cool over all..

 

Thanks man.

 

not me i think that video sucked

 

ok lol well imma have bout 600 bux to spend. not much but i wanna get something. what would be a good investment?

 

ud pulley for 200 ish and a tune for around 4 hopefully

 

Pulley and gears.