Mid-Low 11's..how tough is it?
09-28-2009, 08:38 PM
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and not to be a dick either but how much do you know about nitrous. if you can reliably spray 175 for $250 go ahead. nitrous kits and other things needed add up quick. Ask ruckus46gt how much he has in his nitrous kit.
Go back and read the very first post. Its not how cheep can it be done...
Go back and read the very first post. Its not how cheep can it be done...
09-28-2009, 08:39 PM
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I didn't rip you at all IIRC.. I bought the springs for whatever TSP sells them for brand new and I bought the heads for the same price.. You can look up the prices if you are interested, I didn't get a package deal because I bought them separately..
I bought the cam for 125$ from a buddy of mine.. But, that does not matter because I sold it for what it was worth.. And IIRC I sold it to you less than what everybody else was selling theirs for..
If you think you got screwed on the price, I am sorry.. Nothing I can do about it.. I think I priced them fair enough and you must have to as you bought them VERY fast.
09-28-2009, 08:41 PM
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and not to be a dick either but how much do you know about nitrous. if you can reliably spray 175 for $250 go ahead. nitrous kits and other things needed add up quick. Ask ruckus46gt how much he has in his nitrous kit.
Go back and read the very first post. Its not how cheep can it be done...
Go back and read the very first post. Its not how cheep can it be done...
We can do his all day.. I know what is in this setup and I know to the "T" what I had in my white one.. Argue with me all you want, I know what was spent and I know what was ran with what setup and money.
09-28-2009, 08:52 PM
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Hi Guys. I have been a member here for a while, but don't own an LSx powered vehicle. For the last 10 years or so, I have been into turbo Buicks, but have recently sold mine, and am looking for a newer, better supported platform. I know with the Buicks, once you have a clean running STOCK car, for about $3-5k, you can have a reliable, mid/low 11 sec ride. By reliable I mean a car that can run 11.30's all day and not blow the rear end or trans out of it. Some say it can be done for even less, but that's up for debate.
Anyway, what is the rough cost for a 99-02 Z28 to run those same numbers starting with a clean running stock, or nearly stock car? I know it is always cheaper to start with a modified car, but I would rather know what is really in the car rather than take someones word for it. Thanks.
Anyway, what is the rough cost for a 99-02 Z28 to run those same numbers starting with a clean running stock, or nearly stock car? I know it is always cheaper to start with a modified car, but I would rather know what is really in the car rather than take someones word for it. Thanks.
Later and Good Luck!!!!
09-28-2009, 09:01 PM
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LMAO!!! I find it hilarious how quick people get their panties in a wad on here. The guy wants to run 11s. I tell him want it took me to get there, yall tell him what it took each of you to get there. Then the man takes our vast knowledge and experiences and comes to his own conclusion on what to do to his car. The point of these pissing matches is want?? OP, decide HOW you want to get there (NA, N2O, FI). Then pick up a book on that or the net and research it!! Each car will run differently from the other because each car is built by a different person. Good luck.
09-28-2009, 09:12 PM
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Sorry, but I dont see mid-low 11s in this well thought out combo. stock car (WS6/SS) 325hp + 175hp shot = 500hp. at the crank. take out % lost thru Stock auto (20%hp Conservatively) = 400 at the wheels. That Will Not push an Fbody into the mid-low 11s. I'd be Shocked if it even hit 11.99, with stock drivetrain and stock suspension.
To the OP: i have 90mm TB&intake, LTs, cam, stage 2 heads, 3600 stall, 3.73s on beefed up 10bolt, lid, pulley, and tune with SFC, LCAs, PHB, and 17" DRs. my best is 11.7 @ 118 mph NA. last dyno (pre 90mm combo) was 420hp at the Wheels (I'm guessin it is now around 430ish). So there's an Actual Number for you to aim for. but it's gonna take more that a GRAND...... that's the nature of the beast.
PS. Ruckus46GT.... I want to see you car run!! If you're gettin those times.. your car is a FREAK. lol. I need to know your secret. and I'm serious!!!
To the OP: i have 90mm TB&intake, LTs, cam, stage 2 heads, 3600 stall, 3.73s on beefed up 10bolt, lid, pulley, and tune with SFC, LCAs, PHB, and 17" DRs. my best is 11.7 @ 118 mph NA. last dyno (pre 90mm combo) was 420hp at the Wheels (I'm guessin it is now around 430ish). So there's an Actual Number for you to aim for. but it's gonna take more that a GRAND...... that's the nature of the beast.
PS. Ruckus46GT.... I want to see you car run!! If you're gettin those times.. your car is a FREAK. lol. I need to know your secret. and I'm serious!!!
09-28-2009, 09:30 PM
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11s with a Fbody are easy. Figure if it's stock, it will take at least 5 grand to do it and have reliability. I have 15 in my car, it can run a nine with boost issues figured out and everything is up to task as long as the short block doesn't complain, it runs 10.0 to 10.5 afr under boost. 93 pump no meth or race gas.
09-28-2009, 10:20 PM
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Sorry, but I dont see mid-low 11s in this well thought out combo. stock car (WS6/SS) 325hp + 175hp shot = 500hp. at the crank. take out % lost thru Stock auto (20%hp Conservatively) = 400 at the wheels. That Will Not push an Fbody into the mid-low 11s. I'd be Shocked if it even hit 11.99, with stock drivetrain and stock suspension.
To the OP: i have 90mm TB&intake, LTs, cam, stage 2 heads, 3600 stall, 3.73s on beefed up 10bolt, lid, pulley, and tune with SFC, LCAs, PHB, and 17" DRs. my best is 11.7 @ 118 mph NA. last dyno (pre 90mm combo) was 420hp at the Wheels (I'm guessin it is now around 430ish). So there's an Actual Number for you to aim for. but it's gonna take more that a GRAND...... that's the nature of the beast.
PS. Ruckus46GT.... I want to see you car run!! If you're gettin those times.. your car is a FREAK. lol. I need to know your secret. and I'm serious!!!
To the OP: i have 90mm TB&intake, LTs, cam, stage 2 heads, 3600 stall, 3.73s on beefed up 10bolt, lid, pulley, and tune with SFC, LCAs, PHB, and 17" DRs. my best is 11.7 @ 118 mph NA. last dyno (pre 90mm combo) was 420hp at the Wheels (I'm guessin it is now around 430ish). So there's an Actual Number for you to aim for. but it's gonna take more that a GRAND...... that's the nature of the beast.
PS. Ruckus46GT.... I want to see you car run!! If you're gettin those times.. your car is a FREAK. lol. I need to know your secret. and I'm serious!!!
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09-29-2009, 12:32 AM
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Sorry, but I dont see mid-low 11s in this well thought out combo. stock car (WS6/SS) 325hp + 175hp shot = 500hp. at the crank. take out % lost thru Stock auto (20%hp Conservatively) = 400 at the wheels. That Will Not push an Fbody into the mid-low 11s. I'd be Shocked if it even hit 11.99, with stock drivetrain and stock suspension.
To the OP: i have 90mm TB&intake, LTs, cam, stage 2 heads, 3600 stall, 3.73s on beefed up 10bolt, lid, pulley, and tune with SFC, LCAs, PHB, and 17" DRs. my best is 11.7 @ 118 mph NA. last dyno (pre 90mm combo) was 420hp at the Wheels (I'm guessin it is now around 430ish). So there's an Actual Number for you to aim for. but it's gonna take more that a GRAND...... that's the nature of the beast.
PS. Ruckus46GT.... I want to see you car run!! If you're gettin those times.. your car is a FREAK. lol. I need to know your secret. and I'm serious!!!
To the OP: i have 90mm TB&intake, LTs, cam, stage 2 heads, 3600 stall, 3.73s on beefed up 10bolt, lid, pulley, and tune with SFC, LCAs, PHB, and 17" DRs. my best is 11.7 @ 118 mph NA. last dyno (pre 90mm combo) was 420hp at the Wheels (I'm guessin it is now around 430ish). So there's an Actual Number for you to aim for. but it's gonna take more that a GRAND...... that's the nature of the beast.
PS. Ruckus46GT.... I want to see you car run!! If you're gettin those times.. your car is a FREAK. lol. I need to know your secret. and I'm serious!!!
I've ran 11.7 @113 with around 330-340rwhp. I dynoed 313rwhp with a lid and catback and have only added, an electric waterpump, ported TB, pulley and a stall since then. I can't imagine that being more than 340rwhp through a locked stall. I could run 10s with 400rwhp. And I'm not completely full weight, but I'm not far off. I still have full interior, A/C and powersteering.
You're MPH would suggest that you're not getting a good 60'. Hence your not so great time.
I think he runs 12.4 on motor and 11.0 with nitrous.
09-29-2009, 02:33 PM
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stock unopened 10 bolt. I'm afraid to open it up. I feel once i do its opening a can of works. Converter is a protorque 3k stall and spray comes on at 2200rpms
09-29-2009, 03:53 PM
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no idea stall was in it when i bought it. I cant get better then a 1.78 60' and have tried many many different ways to get a better 60' and finally broke a 1.80 and got the 1.78. Car never spins, even if people in front of me spin i can stop up and hook. If you stall up to above 2200+ rpms on motor it just doesnt hit hard. If i stall it up to 1800-2000 thats the sweet spot, under 1800 it takes a while to unload it feels like almost(best way to explain it). Flashing it same as going avoe 2200. I've even had other people try to figure it out and they agree 1800-2k hold it and smash it best way to launch it.
