Dumb question about headers
02-08-2012, 05:01 PM
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once you've got them, check with local reputable exhaust shops for the rest of the system.
02-08-2012, 07:06 PM
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they do here in nj too. i used to be one of them as previously mentioned. but also here in nj, they've been deploying mobile inspection stations, complete with computer hook ups, and tail pipe sniffers. the sniffer WILL tell them that there's no cat, even if they don't look.
to me, it's just not worth the risk, especially with todays technology, and high flow cats......what're ya gonna gain? .00125 of a second in the quarter?
now, since there's some on this board that think i just like to argue....and sometimes i do.....and that i just like to troll, blablabla.......i'm not. i'm just offering advice, and my opinion.
it is absolutely not worth the risk of them trying to impound my car(worst case) or slap me with a huge assed fine, just because i want to be cool and take the cats out.
oh yea....and fords rule, chevys suck. that should cover all the bases for my ankle humper.
to me, it's just not worth the risk, especially with todays technology, and high flow cats......what're ya gonna gain? .00125 of a second in the quarter?
now, since there's some on this board that think i just like to argue....and sometimes i do.....and that i just like to troll, blablabla.......i'm not. i'm just offering advice, and my opinion.
it is absolutely not worth the risk of them trying to impound my car(worst case) or slap me with a huge assed fine, just because i want to be cool and take the cats out.
oh yea....and fords rule, chevys suck. that should cover all the bases for my ankle humper.
really? where? youre making me nervous lol. im not seeing that here thankfully.
as far as LTs i agree on not going cheap. go with something stainless and high quality and be done.
02-08-2012, 07:15 PM
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had a customer got caught up near trenton area. he wasn't so lucky. they slapped a big red sticker on his truck.....you know...one of those 48 hour stickers?
those are the only instances i've heard so far. i do know they were built by winner ford. i saw 10 of them being built down there.
02-09-2012, 07:26 AM
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Some of you guys may have trailer/garage queens but I don't see the point in bashing the rest of us. I have a 150k car that gets driven rain,snow or shine. A 1000.00+ set of headers is going to look pretty but what am I gaining otherwise? People keep citing quality but I ask you how many people on here have had to buy a set of headers to replace their cheap headers after a 5 year period? Do they fall apart and need replaced? How long with your expensive headers last (this only applies if the car leaves the garage) 10 years? Forever? I can afford to pitch the ones in the trash and buy two more sets and still be under what a 'quality' set costs so I'm pretty sure I'm in good shape here.
I would really like to know though, aside from supporting a particular manufacturer what's the problem you guys have? Upset you spent too much or do you really believe BBK headers will fall apart and need replaced in a years time? If you have credible information by all means speak up.
I would really like to know though, aside from supporting a particular manufacturer what's the problem you guys have? Upset you spent too much or do you really believe BBK headers will fall apart and need replaced in a years time? If you have credible information by all means speak up.
02-09-2012, 07:42 AM
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not all of us have trailer queens.i didn't cheese out on the headers, or any other parts for my mustang in the picture, and you see the result. that was my everyday all weather car....unless the snow was deep enough to warrant my old pickup truck.
02-09-2012, 09:13 AM
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he wouldn't necessarily run the same times. especially with headers......theres differences in design and construction. both of these can/will effect performance.
02-09-2012, 12:18 PM
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Next question is to go with ceramic coated headers or go the cheap way and do chrome with wrap? Also I saw something about paint for the header wrap, anyone have any experience with that?
02-09-2012, 09:15 PM
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Some of you guys may have trailer/garage queens but I don't see the point in bashing the rest of us. I have a 150k car that gets driven rain,snow or shine. A 1000.00+ set of headers is going to look pretty but what am I gaining otherwise? People keep citing quality but I ask you how many people on here have had to buy a set of headers to replace their cheap headers after a 5 year period? Do they fall apart and need replaced? How long with your expensive headers last (this only applies if the car leaves the garage) 10 years? Forever? I can afford to pitch the ones in the trash and buy two more sets and still be under what a 'quality' set costs so I'm pretty sure I'm in good shape here.
I would really like to know though, aside from supporting a particular manufacturer what's the problem you guys have? Upset you spent too much or do you really believe BBK headers will fall apart and need replaced in a years time? If you have credible information by all means speak up.
I would really like to know though, aside from supporting a particular manufacturer what's the problem you guys have? Upset you spent too much or do you really believe BBK headers will fall apart and need replaced in a years time? If you have credible information by all means speak up.
I'm not saying they might completely rust away or anything like that. just that if you drive in the snow and your car sees hard winters a header more suited to defend rust might be a good idea, and I HAVE seen what happens to poor quality chrome applications.
02-09-2012, 09:48 PM
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Can you share? I know my post was hostile and all, but no one gives any proof/insight on just what happens with cheap headers they just talk **** about them and call it a day. You would be helping people put if you steered the towards the good stuff for a good reason.
02-09-2012, 09:53 PM
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02-10-2012, 12:41 AM
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Poor chrome jobs will flake if the process is not done properly and this will leave you with bare places that will see the hard elements.
Chrome is a better choice than ceramic though.
This is a picture showing how the rust is collecting near the collector and on one of the primaries. Nothing to major.
I think its the pacesetters that suffer from the poor finishes. This picture is from a member that had 1500 miles on this set and was garaged.
My Texas-speed headers have some slight rust in the welds (ceramic). This sucks because I don't want them to begin leaking. Bear in mind I could always just have them re-coated or switch out to a better made header (ARH or Kooks)
I don't know anything about how quickly salt speeds up the process. My car doesn't see winters or rain. Shouldn't be a problem really of course just showing that ceramic only slows the process. Chrome is very resistant but the finish can be damaged. Stainless doesn't have these problem but they discolor and you will pay for it.
The higher cost is from the better finish, fit, and maybe a little bit better performance. I'm not saying going from a pacesetter to a BBK will get your an extra 5 horsepower, going from 1-3/4 to 1-7/8 you will, but I'm sure a high end header has a little better scavenging going on.
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02-10-2012, 07:17 AM
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Yes there also is a guy that just started a thread because his bbk headers wont fit. He has them bolted on. But the collector rest on the floor.
My6speedz if your welds have rust it will wipe off with a rag and wd40.
My6speedz if your welds have rust it will wipe off with a rag and wd40.
02-10-2012, 07:37 AM
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