True.

The GTO is different. GM has nothing like the F-Body any longer. The GTO is the only RWD V8 that can be had new for under 40k.

 

You also gotta remember what the GTO really is. I mean, for all those that are complaining about the looks and what not. I think it is a very accurate, modern day depiction of the original GTO. The original was pretty much just a LeMans with a bigger engine and stuff to support it. Look at the new GTO. It looks a lot like Pontiacs other sedans, just a bit sprotier. It has a bigger engine and the stuff to support it. I don't think anything can ever justifiably replace the F-body. The GTO was not made to replace it.

 

If you can get past the styling, I'd say the new GTO is a winner. It would be really nice to have a nice interior, more comfy seats, more features, and the same rwd V8 in a better built/modern package.

The only reason I'd never sell the SS for one is that they look like a fat Cavalier.

I think Mike put it best:

"I can't imagine anyone wanting a sleeper. Heck when I'm driving down the road I want other cars to say oh Sh--t here comes the beast."

 

I agree. The camaro interior (other than 35th anniverisary) is outdated and the seats suck.

I like having a sleeper. I don't need the police focusing on my car, nor do I want to waste gas racing hopped-up Honda accords from stoplights because some pimple-faced teenager wants to try to prove how cool his car is to his girlfriend. I'm more than happy to hear from my buddies that the tower announcer was surprised to see my unassuming convertible blow right past a loud, flashy car on the way to a mid 11 timeslip.

It's a shame that the GTO is so heavy. There is no reason that Pontiac needed that much weight. Good seats, high quality switches, and a stiffer frame don't add weight. Pontiac decided to cut costs and not do it right.

 

I have seen the GTO up close and the car has some potential.
The interior is nice. The engine is accessible for plugs and wires and such (I dread the thought of changing my plugs). It has allot of HP stock without a SC.

I hated the design originally. That had allot to do with the F-Body ceasing to exist and blaming the GTO. F8@K!

But the Holden Manero has some nice design points, though not a pony car.

I think with some changes the car would fit with cars that are more refined and sporty. The Audi S4 is a bad ride, IMO. The GTO may get there.

But, I will pay off my WS6 because she is going no where.

 

Same thing happened to me. I had a 4th gen TA and wasn't in the market for a new car. But I happened to go in the Pontiac showroom to check out a GTO in person, went for a little ride, and next thing I knew I was driving it home. I held on to the TA for a while after that but found it to be so inferior to the GTO that I really didn't want to drive it anymore and I sold it to my brother. Maybe I'll regret that someday but not right now..

 

Art_Vandelay...

Are you into imports.... or exports? /seinfeld

This makes me want to go drive a GTO real bad. Finally a car I could pass off as a family car to the wife.

 

The GTO is not overrated in horsepower. It's that the F-bodies were underrated in factory horsepower. Mine says 325hp but GM will tell you it was more like 368hp.

 

aaaaakkkkk..
ls1 powered grand prix =gto

 

If I were shopping for a more practical car, the GTO would be in my garage hands down. This thread, though, is kinda screwed from the start. It's like starting a thread "What's more comfortable, a GTO, or a Firebird?". Both have their own merits, both are LS1 based, both are fun. Bottom line, folks-they both came from the GENERAL!!!!

 

Dear Pontiac,
Please bring back the Trans-am, I'm thinking all wheel drive, Turbo charged big block for starters, and then who knows...To each is own on the GTO, I personally think they suck, but wheather they suck or not, we still want the Trans-Am back, but don't bring it back if it's not going to come of the factory line with at least 500hp...

~Thanks for listening....(YeaRight)

 

amen!! i'm going to stay "an army of one" and i hope everyone else in here will to

 

The Judge is going to be coming out in 05- I'll wait till then to pass judgement (no pun intended). It's supposed to be faster (LS6?) and look a lot more badass with retro hood scoops and graphics and a spoiler. Hopefully they'll have VOE like the 70 RAIV goats (variable open exhaust-"elec. cutout"). That would be cool.

 

thats right lets not forget that we're all soldiers (f-bod's/GTO's) fighting for the General!!... Ford/Imports

 

I'm thinking of giving up the importing and just focus on the exporting. In any case, I just want to say I find those Mustang/Import guys to be both loathsome and repugnant.

 

I totally agree.

Not every GM muscle car is going to be everyone's cup of tea, but I personally like them all and think they're really cool.

Can't we all get along and admire each others rides as different as they may be?

I'd like to buy a new GTO after I get a chance to drive one (which nobody will let me do right now), but the treatment it gets on this site makes me afraid to ask any questions or get any help when I end up with one.

 

i like it and i think it has potential.


its supposed to be getting an ls2 motor in the near future.

 

They are a big hit over here, but they are made in Aussie land and they call them "Lumina".
No match for f-bodies though. That IRS is not drag material.

 

i own a a4 2002 commodore ss which is faster than the 2 door stock
it even wont run close to a a4 ls1 fbody
not even a a4 lt1 fbody
the thing is better from the inside than a fbody
and does not need DRs as much as they do
but "It looks a lot like Pontiacs other sedans"
its as they call it here "GM's rx8"

 

Dan, I am moving to the East Side in June, to start a job in Livonia. Love to see the GTO some time...