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Old 07-02-2013, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mumbles
I'm with MasterTomos. He's gone to great lengths to give you a very accurate and detailed explanation of how the Pontiac Firebird is broken down, but the quote above sums it up very well.



Whether you have a badge on the car or not, the Title for your Pontiac Firebird Trans Am says it is a Firebird. (As does the title for your Dodge Challenger.) That is the car you have.



The only difference in Sway Bars & Springs came with the WS6 Package which was available on both the Firebird Formula & Firebird Trans Am. (This is true at least thru the year 2000. In 2001 & 2002 the WS6 Package was only available for the Firebird Trans Am.)

Your quote below shows you have a pretty good grasp on the subject.



Thanks for clearing up the sway bar/spring setup.

And I've only debated this as much as i have because according to the vin code the car is a formula (v8 car) then down the assembly line it gained the y-82 code for the trans am appearances instead of w66 for formula appearances.

But it really doesn't matter anyway
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Originally Posted by 94 White T/A
And I've only debated this as much as i have because according to the vin code the car is a formula (v8 car) then down the assembly line it gained the y-82 code for the trans am appearances instead of w66 for formula appearances.
All SS's have Z28 RPO's, but we don't refer to them as Z28/SS's. Well, I suppose the 96's were referred that way, but that's simply not how they're referenced.

It becomes a mouthful if one has a Firehawk...

Pontiac Firebird Formula Trans Am Firehawk by SLP.
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Originally Posted by demonspeed
All SS's have Z28 RPO's, but we don't refer to them as Z28/SS's. Well, I suppose the 96's were referred that way, but that's simply not how they're referenced.

It becomes a mouthful if one has a Firehawk...

Pontiac Firebird Formula Trans Am Firehawk by SLP.
For sure! LOL
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Originally Posted by demonspeed
All SS's have Z28 RPO's, but we don't refer to them as Z28/SS's. Well, I suppose the 96's were referred that way, but that's simply not how they're referenced.

It becomes a mouthful if one has a Firehawk...

Pontiac Firebird Formula Trans Am Firehawk by SLP.
This i agree with 100%
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This is a Formula that will blow your mind . . .

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Originally Posted by 94 White T/A
Thanks for clearing up the sway bar/spring setup.

And I've only debated this as much as i have because according to the vin code the car is a formula (v8 car) then down the assembly line it gained the y-82 code for the trans am appearances instead of w66 for formula appearances.

But it really doesn't matter anyway
The VIN doesn't designate a trim whatsoever actually, it just designates the engine (8th digit maybe, if I remember right?) That's why titles say both "Trans am" and "Formula" usually-because based off the VIN they have no idea what trim it is-just that it has a V8 lol.

As for the Swaybars/springs, The WS6's just got an upgraded front sway bar (32mm instead of 30mm-whoohoo lol) and had optional Bilstein shocks (which a mass majority of them didn't have). Besides that, it's just the hood, air box, different exhaust tips, 17" wheels, a (terrible) power steering cooler, and the badge, oh, and about a 50% increase in the asking price

Firehawks need their own thread for the differences, but also had upgraded front sway bars, optional springs, and optional shocks, in short.
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Originally Posted by MasterTomos
As for the Swaybars/springs, The WS6's just got an upgraded front sway bar (32mm instead of 30mm-whoohoo lol) and had optional Bilstein shocks (which a mass majority of them didn't have).
There were no optional Bilstein shocks on LS1 WS6 cars. Suspension upgrades such as this were only optional on the SLP cars (SS and Firehawk). The conversion contractor for LS1 WS6s was ASC, which did not offer any of the SLP upgrades that were optional on SS/Firehawk.

Originally Posted by demonspeed
It becomes a mouthful if one has a Firehawk...

Pontiac Firebird Formula Trans Am Firehawk by SLP.
Remember though, there were also Formula Firehawks that were not Trans Ams.
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
Remember though, there were also Formula Firehawks that were not Trans Ams.
Right, but that doesn't fit the narrative
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
There were no optional Bilstein shocks on LS1 WS6 cars. Suspension upgrades such as this were only optional on the SLP cars (SS and Firehawk). The conversion contractor for LS1 WS6s was ASC, which did not offer any of the SLP upgrades that were optional on SS/Firehawk.



Remember though, there were also Formula Firehawks that were not Trans Ams.
Should have clarified more, the LT1 ws6's were made by SLP and had the optional shocks.

Also, just a side note, The Firehawk Package wasn't even originally on Trans am's. From 1992-1995 (maybe '96 not sure) the firehawk package wasn't even an option for a Trans am at all, only the formulas.
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Originally Posted by MasterTomos
Also, just a side note, The Firehawk Package wasn't even originally on Trans am's. From 1992-1995 (maybe '96 not sure) the firehawk package wasn't even an option for a Trans am at all, only the formulas.
You're correct. SLP was making the Comp T/A at that time. It wasn't until 99 that one could get the T/A Firehawk.

Don't forget -- no Firehawks at all (available to the public) in 98, either.
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Originally Posted by demonspeed
You're correct. SLP was making the Comp T/A at that time. It wasn't until 99 that one could get the T/A Firehawk.
1995 was the first year for Comp T/A (which was the 25th anniversary for the BFG Comp T/A tire line and thus the reason for the package). No Comp T/A package in earlier years.
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Originally Posted by LS WON A4
What's the differences between them an actual Trans Ams?
LMAO, I think this was started just to see you all bicker about technicalities.
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Originally Posted by toslow5o
LMAO, I think this was started just to see you all bicker about technicalities.
Well...The thread was created to define the technicalities and differences, so, yes, you're right.
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Originally Posted by toslow5o
LMAO, I think this was started just to see you all bicker about technicalities.
I guess it worked
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