Tiger2o69

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I just raced a 5.0 mustang that was heavily modded. Things that I know he has was heads and cam ported and polished with a cobra intake w/ cold air. He also named off a lot of other stuff.

We raced from about 20mph roll and i pulled down to 2nd in my a4 which i meant to pull to drive b/c i thought a had it in OD but didnt. We stayed together for a minute then he pulled away and then i started pulling on him again got up to a half car lenth and then had it redlined to I had to push it into drive when i did he pulled away again.

IF I hadnt dropped it into second would the outcome have been different. From what Im thinking because i never got to use first he pulled away from me easily.

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im not sure but i htought from a roll you keep it in drive?? ive always heard of bad htings happening to cars trying to shift an a4..i could be stupid but i htink that puts alot of stress on the tranny

Tiger2o69

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I wasnt trying to shift it. I thought that it was in OD so I shifted down into what i thought was drive but it was 2nd because i already had it in drive. When i noticed it was in 2nd it was too late.

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ohh gotcha..but is that true..from a roll your supossed to keep it in drive because fro some reason slower cars than mine happen to pass me up from a roll and when were at a red light i blow there doors off..do you know what the problem is?

slik98z

not sure about the OD stuff however i know 5.0 mustangs. if he kept the stock 302 bottom end he would plateau around 303-310 rwhp and around 330-340 rwtq. with a tune he'd end up with around 315-320. i haven't heard too many 5.0's with a stock bottom end getting above the 320 mark.

manually shifting your A4 can eventually do some damage. a torque converter and you'd have absolutely no problem brushing him off (as stated before, IF he has the stock 302 bottom end). Honestly, i'd say just mash it down instead of doing the shifting stuff. you should be right around teh same hp (you might have a little more), i personally think you shifting could have confused the computer and caused your precious seconds..cause thats all it takes sometimes.

let the computer do the thinking for you with the stock t/c, just mash down give it hell and make sure you hook. i think you should have the edge then.

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Tiger2o69

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What kind of car do you have?

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ls1 trans am basically stock

Tiger2o69

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For me its usually the opposite because i have traction problems right now. What kind of cars are beating you from a roll?

Tiger2o69

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A4 or M6

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a porsche carrera, a 350z but he got a head start and i barely beat him..and like little rice burners ..i dont seem to pull as much as i would expect till a red light shows...its like it shifts to a high gear id say going bout 50 to 60 and then there gone and im still waiting for my rpms to go up and them i start gainin

Tiger2o69

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smaller motors can rev to higher rpms but i dont think any should be able to give you a problem from roll or dig. The other 2 cars fast but i dont think they should be beating you from a roll. I think the 350z put out around 260 which is far less than you have, but im not sure. I think with the start he got on he it should have been kinda close depending on how much of a start

jrp

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i hope i can beat my friends 5.0: forged 327, afr 185's, FTI cam, RPM intake, Vortech @ 8psi, yada yada yada

TheHauntedZ28

that happened to me once at the track. I have NO idea how it happened but I ended up hitting the shifter down to 2nd. It bogged down like a little pecker. I read somewhere that 2001-2002 if you shift down to 2nd... you'll START at 2nd. The 98-00 will always start in 1st gear. even if you've shifted down to 2nd. I don't know if you've ever driving an M6 but if you start from second you don't take off ANYWHERE near as quickly as you would from 1st. About the 5.slow, those can be pretty quick when they've got the right amount of modifications. Light bodies. Down here there are about 4 or 5 of those 5.0s hitting 10s. Here's the reason... THEY'RE CHEVY POWERED. That seems to be the trend down here, to get a 5.slow body and put in a 350 or 396. Only way to REALLY make them fast.

Tom@SpeedInc

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I just raced a heavily modded 5.0 last night in my GTO and won first race lost second race. His stang 5speed trick flow heads cam intake manifold longtubes says he runs 13 has ran high 12s. Don't underestimate the GTO.

SAPPER

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To you original question, if you would have hit first or left it in drive or OD you would have dusted his a$$. when you hit 2nd, it started out in 2nd, not first. LS1's don't have anything below 2000 rpm. . I have an A4 and I constantly shift it manually. If it's gonna go, it's gonna go. Stock 4L60E's are not the greatest gift to the 4spd world, though a custom built one, Hughes, which I think is the best built one, will hold 700+ hp.
As for the 5.0, there are so many cams he coud have had, the heads help those alot but you definately should have pulled him had you you hit first from the gitgo. Your rpms will climb quickly and you do not want the rev limiter to hit when shifting manually. Watch your tach and bump the next gear at around 56-5800 that will let it shift right before the limiter hits at 6200. Just practice with it and you'll haul a$$ or invest in a shift light and set it to 5700.

02WS6Bird

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ok i have a ? the shifter reas D...is that my OD? and then it has 3 is that my drive gear? if so why would i kick it down to 3 if im road racing, when throwing it in D has the higher topend?...at a light would it be better to put it in 3 then? instead of D?

TheHauntedZ28

on Trans-Ams/Formulas it reads 1-2-3-D. On Z28s/SS it reads 1-2-D-and um that D with the square around it. It's better for your transmission to drop it down to 3 in your case. With those 3.23s you shouldn't run out of RPMs even if you go a little more than a quarter mile. Now if you had 4.10s then you'd definitely have to go into "D". I've always been told to just drop it down to D(I drive a Z28) which would be 3 for you, something about it being too much strain on the tranny or too much line pressure. But if you have the money to rebuild a tranny and don't care about screwing it up then by all means shift from 1st to 2nd. But do what SAPPER said. The more times you hit that rev limiter, the quicker those clutches will go out.

F8L Z71

Man, some you guys got totally the wrong info...

An A4 can and should me manually shifted to keep you ijn your peak powerband if you are racing. Unless you have custom tuning the PCM wont always shift where you need it to. Case in point. My C5 at 75mph wont downshift to 2nd gear. If i mash the pdeal it will downshigt to 3rd only and leave me low in rpm and I take off all sluggish till i get into the meat of the powerband before it really gets going. If I drop it into 2nd myself I rush forward quickly and have almost 1000rpm worth of quick sruge before I have to slip it into 3rd. That is enough difference to put you half a car or more ahead of whoever you are racing.

True, the trans wont last super long doing that but then again, do any 4l60Es last long? LOL

As for the Mustang. They CAN be very fast and with your mods you'd get left in the dust. your average heads/cam car will be decent competition, especially if they have a 5-speed. But you get a built one with the right combo and say goodnight. There are plenty of them in the Northern Cali area with 331-347cid motors with simple combos running 119-124mph in the 1/4 WITHOUT a power adder.

I always say, a Mustang is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get till you try to take a bite

toxic99

When drag racing, leave it in od or d. If you want to get to an optimal gear while from a roll, downshift it manually, then when you take off upshift quickly to D or OD and the computer will take over . There will be no rev limiter shifts or wrong gear selection.

BriancWS6

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If you have the 3.23s then it would have dropped to first if you hadn't put it in 2nd. That is why your rpms were low. For my car with the 3.23s the two best spots to hit it from a roll are 15-20mph and 60-65mph and it will kick down on its own and flat haul ***. No bogging or waiting. Do your roll races from those speeds and you should get a lot better results than say a roll from 40. Hope that helps and good luck. Oh yea I meant if you have 3.23s those speeds would be the best for a roll race, it would have dropped to first with the 2.73s as well of course.