What a stock LS1 can beat
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Originally Posted by ONGRNGO
Thats what I am saying, I had bought some aftermarket parts before my car was even mine, So I never really drove it stock except on the way home, other wise it was never stock!! So this talk about stock on stock is pointless .
Stock is for daily drivers mods are for racers.
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Originally Posted by 1984camaroz28
You forgot EVOs and STIs thoes thing dont run 13.2 more like 13.9 i was at the track and there where runing 13.9s all night long
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Originally Posted by baddogz28
This is the most rediculous post I have ever read. Somebody said earlier in this thread that maybe you were racing, and the LS1's weren't. That sounds more like what happened to me. The guys in the LS1's probably : looked at your GT and thought you weren't even worth it. :barf
As for your RWHP numbers, how big of a N20 shot were you running?
As for your RWHP numbers, how big of a N20 shot were you running?
After a while, I lost interest in spanking the GT and now I look for the Cobra's. I figure that if I get spanked by enough Cobra's it will help motivate me to work harder and save up for the VORTECH so I can humiliate their *** too...
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Eagle tallons
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Originally Posted by Smokinstorm
at last count there were only 3 remaining stock AWD Talons left worldwide.
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4 pages ...geez...
real life. on the street any car that lines up next to you and is within 1 sec of your 1/4 mile time has a shot to beat you.
you wanna find out what can beat YOUR ls1..... line her up and race
real life. on the street any car that lines up next to you and is within 1 sec of your 1/4 mile time has a shot to beat you.
you wanna find out what can beat YOUR ls1..... line her up and race
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yeah, the rest aren't stock because they have a big wing, fart pipe, oversize intake, and giant gauges
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
M3 about equal to M5? What have you been smoking? M5 is whole level above M3. M3 wouldn't worry me, an M5 on the other hand.....I'd be praying that I can stick on the launch since my car is all in the 60'
M5: 4024lbs and 394hp = 10.21lbs/hp
Wow, those power to weight ratios sure are pretty similar. But I guess that 0.05lb/hp advantage the M5 has makes all the difference in the world. Luxury and comfort wise the M5 is way ahead, 1/4 times are going to be damn close.
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Originally Posted by MJSLude99
M3: 3415lbs and 333hp = 10.26lbs/hp
M5: 4024lbs and 394hp = 10.21lbs/hp
Wow, those power to weight ratios sure are pretty similar. But I guess that 0.05lb/hp advantage the M5 has makes all the difference in the world. Luxury and comfort wise the M5 is way ahead, 1/4 times are going to be damn close.
M5: 4024lbs and 394hp = 10.21lbs/hp
Wow, those power to weight ratios sure are pretty similar. But I guess that 0.05lb/hp advantage the M5 has makes all the difference in the world. Luxury and comfort wise the M5 is way ahead, 1/4 times are going to be damn close.
Not that the newer M3 is slow, it is by no means a slouch and can pull low 13's, but the M5 is capable of 12's when driven properly.
#70
Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
Quit magazine racing. That's like taking my LS1 and saying it's got 305 hp stock so it should lose to the 320 horse 99/01 Cobra. Why don't you get a reliable quote on the real world 1/4 time of those two??????
That is true, but the M3 has no power at all below 5000 rpm, while the M5 has a great powerband similar to the LS6/LS1.
-Todd
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Originally Posted by Smokinstorm
Yes, unfortunately for the performance enthusiasts that actually drive DSM's, the above mentioned crowd does also exist.
-Todd
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Originally Posted by Gloveperson
That is true, but the M3 has no power at all below 5000 rpm, while the M5 has a great powerband similar to the LS6/LS1.
-Todd
-Todd
I want to set this straight: A stock M3 is fully capable of taking a stock LS1. What I was saying is that in my current state the M3 would not worry me but if I didn't do it right the M5 could sneak by me. Since this thread was about a stock LS1, both of them are a real threat.
#73
Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
Right. The M5 has torque! The M3 has variable cam technology i believe and it makes a lot of top end but it's small and doesn't have a lot of torque. The M3 is by no means slow, again, but the M5 is by all means a small step above it.
I want to set this straight: A stock M3 is fully capable of taking a stock LS1. What I was saying is that in my current state the M3 would not worry me but if I didn't do it right the M5 could sneak by me. Since this thread was about a stock LS1, both of them are a real threat.
I want to set this straight: A stock M3 is fully capable of taking a stock LS1. What I was saying is that in my current state the M3 would not worry me but if I didn't do it right the M5 could sneak by me. Since this thread was about a stock LS1, both of them are a real threat.
The engine is a work of art, as is driving one. I have also driven them both. The M5 is easily the fastest car I have ever driven, the M3 is more like a very fast high revving engine. FYI, the M3 has like 250 lbs of torque. The M5 has like 360.
-Todd
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"What kind of trap did you have? 60ft? etc etc...too many variables to claim just because your car ran 13.2 ~ 13.3 everyone else should."
Its been 2-3 years, but 2.1 60' on firehawks, and mph was almost always in the 105-106 range powershifting.
Josh
Its been 2-3 years, but 2.1 60' on firehawks, and mph was almost always in the 105-106 range powershifting.
Josh
#75
Originally Posted by luvmeZ28
thats right! ive seen quite a few of the evos and a few of the stis and the best ive ever seen one run was a 13.9. most of the time 14.2-14.5. 69_yenko got to race the same evo on the street and at the track. beat it both times. and dont go and pull the "no drivers card" on this one. that guy was launching that car badass. i thought stu was gonna get his *** handed to him. but he beat him both times. and stus best time of the night was a 14.001. and thats with old hard bald tires, TWO clogged cats, and a broken tranny mount. hindsight is 20/20, so dont ask why he was racing like that. simple answer- we didnt know.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...%2F4+mile+time
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#76
Originally Posted by wrxpeed
Please, my stock WRX, non-STi, ran a 13.9 @ 94 mph, those guys must drive like school bus drivers or something. There are plenty of STis running high 12s stock. Its all driver anyway.
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Even all of the STI owners were saying how much an LS1 would kill it from a roll.
E/T means very little. Trap speed shows which car is faster.
Oh, and we do know that those guys who run the high 13's in STi's are not launching, but that is what you should expect from the street. We are doing stock vs. stock here.
-Todd
Last edited by Gloveperson; 09-06-2004 at 10:13 PM.
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Originally Posted by wrxpeed
Please, my stock WRX, non-STi, ran a 13.9 @ 94 mph, those guys must drive like school bus drivers or something. There are plenty of STis running high 12s stock. Its all driver anyway.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...%2F4+mile+time
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dude what you should us is that some lunatic is willing to wind his AWD car up to 6000 rpms and dump the clutch (he wont be doing many of those) on a sticky track to pull a 1.6 60'
i dont see many rexes on the street that 6k clutch dump on the street at a stop light.
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Originally Posted by Gloveperson
Thanks for showing us that we trap higher than all of you, which shows we are still faster
Even all of the STI owners were saying how much an LS1 would kill it from a roll.
E/T means very little. Trap speed shows which car is faster.
-Todd
Even all of the STI owners were saying how much an LS1 would kill it from a roll.
E/T means very little. Trap speed shows which car is faster.
-Todd
#79
Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
Dude, please don't start saying that ET means very little and we should all be going off trap speed. ANY real race is decide by ET. He who gets to there first wins, not he who is going faster at the finish.
Which car is "faster"?
A car that runs a 12.9 at 103 or a car that runs a 13.0 at 115?
I do agree with you about the real race part. I do like racing from a roll, though. Just not against those cars that run 13.0's at 115.
-Todd
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around here you cant even get an evo or wrx to run you (street or track) unless they have modded the crap out of it other then that they are like all the other 4 banger drivers they are all on the gas until a real car pulls up beside them then they act like they dropped something on the floor board or acting like they gotta make a call on their cell so they dont have to look over at the LS1 driver whos grinning ear to ear