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Old 09-14-2004, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by unit213
380rwhp is on the very high end of what you can expect out of a bolt on LS1. You can run mid 11's with that though with the right setup.
True, with an M6 you could hit 380rwhp. And with a perfect setup you could run 11s. More that likely you'd run low to mid 12s. Keep in mind the National Record for these cars (stock) is in the hi 10s, so mid 11s with bolt-ons aint easy.
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Originally Posted by zamboxl
ok at the risk of starting even more comotion i am gona say that with good tires and if you can drive you will see 12's with that much power, depending on your abilities you'll see high 12's to near mid 12's.

Now if anyone disagrees with my statement please say so in an orderly name there is no need to start talking bout clues, and trains and calling someone stupid just couse you disagree with me. sp please if you disagree let me know the proper way.

Edit: oopps unit beated me to it, yea 11's sound more like it but after what i seen in this thread i figure i might as well stay on the extremely conservative side and avoid any more discruntal members out there.
lol. Yes, you are off on your numbers for sure. 380rwhp is 11's without too much difficulty on a decent setup. Hell, 350rwhp can go 11's. 380 rwhp can go ~11.5 as unit stated. I'd like to see even 380 rwhp out of a bolt-on LS1. That would be exceptional. And yes, that would be WITH a tune
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
lol. Yes, you are off on your numbers for sure. 380rwhp is 11's without too much difficulty on a decent setup. Hell, 350rwhp can go 11's. 380 rwhp can go ~11.5 as unit stated. I'd like to see even 380 rwhp out of a bolt-on LS1. That would be exceptional. And yes, that would be WITH a tune
yea i figure as much since my t/a with about 20 less hp than that is already in the 12's but hey i fugure let me not get to crazy, dont want anyone screaming outrage at me again.

however you will need to do suspension adjustment's along with that power to get to the 11's. Wich is probably what you meant by proper set up isnt it. lol
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it would be cheaper just to do cam, converter if auto, and exhaust, and you would prolly see way better hp numbers, and times!
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Originally Posted by natronathon
it would be cheaper just to do cam, converter if auto, and exhaust, and you would prolly see way better hp numbers, and times!
Not to mention better ETs for the numbers.
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Originally Posted by natronathon
it would be cheaper just to do cam, converter if auto, and exhaust, and you would prolly see way better hp numbers, and times!
Um, actually, a converter and exhaust are considered bolt-ons. Not only that, but an aftermarket, high stall converter actually REDUCES your rwhp/rwtq numbers because they are typically less efficient.
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Want to know the answer read my reply.

As for 11s....lets just say if you are not in 11s with those #s practice will be you next best mod. Reaching 11s is quite possible with bolt ons, and I plan to do it later this year early next year. 350rwhp will get you a nice low 12 slip, an 11 is pushing it. However 380 to the wheels in an M6 would see around (for average driver with a 1.9+ 60ft) 11.7-11.9. With a skilled driver you can get her down to about 11.6 may .5 but that is still pushing it. Remember 11 seconds is a whole new world where progress is limited, and a 450rwhp car is still in the 11s.

370 with bolt ons in an A4 sound a bit bogus, but who am I to say your lying, possibly true.

A higher stall converter is more efficent....it does absorbe horspower, but not torque. I watched a friend lose 9rwhp but gain 13rwtq. But then again, some cars gain hp from a TC. :dunno: every car is different.

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If you think my claim of 370rwhp with bolt-ons sounds bogus, imagine what everyone thinks of you saying you're going to run 11s with 350rwhp! IF it will do that, I'd consider running AFIA with it. Now maybe if you strip the car down so it weighs 3200lbs, and add a 4500 stall with stickies that get you into the 1.5 60' area. But the BEST I've ever seen up here with a combo like that was 12.20s. Unless you plan to spray....which negates your claim to 350 hp.

And by the way, my 'dyno queen' is well known & documented in the NW. It's no BS. So far I am the top dog in the area for a cam-only car. And the best my car is likely to run next year after I put in a stall is hi 11s. But then I only have 390rwhp now, my car is full dress right down to the spare tire, and I do NOT spray.
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Woah you got a cam? If you think that is high try our RevXtreme cam in a 99 Corvette 399rwhp!! That is through their transaxle which rumor has it weighs more rotation than a 4L60E....

350rwhp can be an 11 slip but like I said that is pushing it. Mid to low 12s is the norm with that rating. BTW, if your car is an A4 with 390rwhp......you are not in the 11s? You honestly should be in the 11s, thats about 400-408rwhp in a M6, and you should be better in the quarter than an M6 with that power. You should be 11.4-11.7 with a converter, maybe better.(Should dyno roughly @ 376rwhp +/- 5hp with a converter)

But dude man like I said I don't know if it is real or not but to me it sounded bogus because it was very high. BTW I don't give an F if it is well documented and you are well known.

If you consider yourself a top dog for a cam only car come on down to tampa and race any car that has had the pleasure to recieve a RevXtreme cam.....then go back to everyone in the northwest and tell them about what happened. Your cam selection was very poor, to recieve 20 rwhp...we have guys getting over 40 and even 49rwhp. Now if you had put in a cam that gave you anything close to what our cams give you would have a 400+rwhp monster.......

It was just a comment mang, and your pride got the best of you.
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Holly crap man, you have 4.10s and you are running those times!! 12.43 113 MPH

Your mph seems a tad low, get a better 60ft there buddy and you will have an 11. Still, get a converter, and you will be in the mid 11s.

Bring the 60ft down to 1.6-.7 range and get slicks, you have a 9 inch.
Get a real tune, Predators suck. Might be why you only got a 20rwhp gain with cam lean it out a bit we got an extra 7 rwhp with just leaning out a cam car....every car is different though.

Your car is 60 footing about what mine does and I am on street tires. That is where your loosing you advantage man.





Dude don't take what I say as a bash on you that was advice, the previous post I was defending myself. No hard feelings.....
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Originally Posted by WAHUSKER
If you think my claim of 370rwhp with bolt-ons sounds bogus, imagine what everyone thinks of you saying you're going to run 11s with 350rwhp! IF it will do that, I'd consider running AFIA with it. Now maybe if you strip the car down so it weighs 3200lbs, and add a 4500 stall with stickies that get you into the 1.5 60' area. But the BEST I've ever seen up here with a combo like that was 12.20s. Unless you plan to spray....which negates your claim to 350 hp.

And by the way, my 'dyno queen' is well known & documented in the NW. It's no BS. So far I am the top dog in the area for a cam-only car. And the best my car is likely to run next year after I put in a stall is hi 11s. But then I only have 390rwhp now, my car is full dress right down to the spare tire, and I do NOT spray.
If done right you should be able to run better than high 11's. Go to the right place/time running your high 11's and you'll have bolt-on only cars beating you. Which would make me




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