LSONE

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in japan skylineds have awd, i would imagine there pretty deadly @ 1200hp from any start.

2MuchRiceMakesMeSick

All im saying is I have no respect for rice. I think its the most rediculous looking crap on the road. You look at those pictures I posted and tell me which is your favorite . I must say though, it must suck to pay all that money, make all that horse power, and still only run 11s

Tiger2o69

iTrader: (16)

Maybe someone already said this but if they get a stall they can spool up on the line and uh oh

WTB-a-Hawk

I think most people on this board have a lot of respect for Supras and their ability to run up top like no other. So i don't know where you are getting that we flame them a lot.

HitmanLSX

The problem with the manual supras is spooling up off the line, hence the only running 11's but having crazy traps. The auto's are a lot better at getting the power off the line and with the right suspension set up they can put it to the ground well too.

True auto enthusiasts give respect where respect is due. Not all imports are rice and not all rice are imports.

Rice is the stock civic with a ugly orange paint job with a super ugly body kit still running a stock D16 and thinking he can take on the world... The 90's 4-door honda my buddy and his dad built with a built LS/VTEC-turbo that has no exterior mods save for lowering, that ran I believe it was an 11.993 and 12.070 at battle of the imports a few weeks ago at Pacific raceways however is not (#1211 in the slips below).


Video: http://host90.ipowerweb.com/~draglab.../Jross1199.wmv




The way you talk not only makes other domestic muscle car owners look like complete idiots, but makes you no better than the guys with the "honda's rule domestics suck" attitude.

Gloveperson

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I love the other time on that slip at the battle of imports;

-Todd

darrensls1formula

Lol, I agree. 17.0 @ 79? I think my sisters minivan can run a better 1/4 mile then that

darrensls1formula

As for imports, I respect any car that meets all the following catagories be it domestic or foreign:

1). Can run under a 14.5 1/4 mile. As the ET goes down my respect goes up.

2). Does not have a huge commando wing.

3). Does not have more stickers then paint.

4). Does not have more money invested in sterio and neon glow lights then performance mods.

5). Does not have a fart can I could fit my arm into.

That's for the cars. As for the owners I only have two catagories to meet to gain my respect.

1). Respect me as a fellow car enthusiast and don't disrespect my car just because your ET/trap may be better then mine.

2). Don't make excuses or be a poor loser. Give a thumbs up or shake hands even if you lost a particular battle because it's not the end of the world.

Gloveperson

iTrader: (9)

Missing a gear is the only excuse I accept, especially when it is obvious.
-Todd

luvmeZ28

iTrader: (3)

why was this thread started? all the people on here that will respect anything that is fast(including me) already have respect. the people that dont never will, no matter how many dyno sheets you show them. youre wasting your time trying to show people "the light."

not trying to flame here, i just think youre contributing to carpul-tunnels(sp?) for nothing.

2MuchRiceMakesMeSick

Exactly my point Fast is fast period. Wings and all those silly visual mods dont make you go fast and it is rediculous to think that.

5POINT7

Dood, playing devil's advocate here, explain the park benches sitting on top of Formula One cars. They are for top end stability.

Since supra's are all top end, then a wing on a modded TT supra actually does serve a purpose. Not all imports are rice. C'mon guys.

Gloveperson

iTrader: (9)

So few people put the *wings* we are reffering to on Supras since they already come with a wing.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...190305_155.jpg


Here is a great website: (i got that pic from there)
http://www.cardomain.com/id/the_anti_rice

-Todd

technical

I've seen very "functional" wings on some imports around here. The difference between those wings and something on a SCCA car is minimal, except that I can't rip one off a SCCA car with my bare hands.

HitmanLSX

hehe even the ones that wobble at the ends and dent the guys quarter panel then fly rip off the car at 100+ mph? lol (seen it happen) but I know what you mean... I've seen some wings on supra's rx7's and even vipers that look like the ones you see on some riced out hondas, but they're 1000+ spoilers that were designed for like you said high speed stability. factory spoilers just don't seem to do the job most of the time. they seem more like appearance than anything.

luvmeZ28

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what speeds are we talking about here where the spoiler/wing ACTUALLY becomes functional? i dont really know anything about this subject, but i would have to imagine pretty high. alot faster than any of those civics and preludes can go!

in fact how functional is mine going 150? ive been there a few times, will i actually FEEL the difference in handling if i took it off? im just sceptical on the need for any car to have a 30 foot wing.


edit: and by functional i mean a large enough difference to mean something, nothing like .01% or anything like that!

technical

By "functional" in my previous post, I meant big enough, correct angle, etc. but held on with thumbtacks...

LoPeY

iTrader: (6)

I hate rice too, it's very RIDICULOUS. Most of those Supras, at least the ones that are set up for the 1/4 are in the 9s and 10s (many running 25+ psi on stock bottom ends). I don't want to start a flame war between us, I just wanted to make a post saying I respect cars such as those.

luvmeZ28

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lol, i know what you mean about that. a few years ago in one of my less mature moments, i yanked one of those suckers off. guy also had twin hood scoops that were 3m-ed on that i relocated to his doors. i dont condone that sort of thing, but it was funny at the time.

and i ask the functional question, because i wanna know for safety reasons. are there any on those street legal cars running around that need the 4.5 foot wing or they would be unstable at high speeds? this includes supras,fbodies,ricers,ect. i dont believe that to be true, so i hate the word functional when applied to wings. they look stupid, the ones larger than stock, even some of the stock import ones, and unless they can somehow save your life i will continue to think so.

HitmanLSX

Does that mean this 98 viper with a le mans wing is rice? from what I gathered talking to him it made a huge difference at speed.




I know I'm being a smart *** but there are times when they are beneficial.