To have cats or not to have cats?
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To have cats or not to have cats?
Ive been wondering about this for awhile now and I wanted to know why didnt people put cats on their cars. I know obv. that there is less restriction but dont we all have to get emmissions testing on our cars?? How do you get away with an off-road y-pipe or true duels with no cats?? Isnt there a fine for that? Let me know.
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Yes , there is a fine for that and you will be hard pressed to find a shop who will do that for you. It's a 2500.00 fine and if you have emissions testing where you live , they will check for it.
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No cats here. I dont like them, im more of a dog person anways. Ive heard of different dollar amount on fines but I have never seen any actual proof. I also heard that they fine the shop and not the individual. But again I have never seen any hardcore evidence.
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check your area for emissions testing. out here in west texas, they hardly enforce emissions(if at all) and no one around here has the tail pipe sniffer thingy. and yes, that is the technical term. lol. ask around, and if no one, or the majority of yo ask dont have them, you will be able to get away with not having them.
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Originally Posted by firecrotch59
dont we all have to get emmissions testing on our cars?? How do you get away with an off-road y-pipe or true duels with no cats?? Isnt there a fine for that?
So Unless I get pulled over and then the cop decides to lay down on his back and see that I have no cats, I don't have anything to worry about as far as having no cats is involved. But yes I would get fined like $250 for modified exhaust if a cop decided to be a jerk. No one that I know of has ever had this happen.
Check your local laws for emmission testing before you decide
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You don't live in the metro Memphis area , do you? In Nashville and the surounding counties , you have to go through emissions testing to renew your tags. If you are OBDI or older down to 1975 model year , you have to pass a visual and a sniffer test, OBDII and up , diagnostic plug in check and visual check. It's gotta be the same in Memphis, eventually the whole state will have to test.
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Originally Posted by badjuju342
You don't live in the metro Memphis area , do you?
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Yea I live in AZ near phoenix and on wednesday I have to get my tags renewed. Which means I have to have my car emmissions tested. Maybe ill just get the 2 year renewal and install headers and whatnot afterwards. Ill let you know what happens and ill ask a few questions while im there.
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my dad used to own a car dealership he said every so often people came to check for emissions and it was $10,000 fine.. but that seems like a lot of money...i doubt it is that big....i think he was just trying to get me to keep the cats...however, that sure didn't work...haha...no regular emissions here in florida
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I live in west Texas and have no emissions on my car (LT's and TD'd). They don't test out here for it and if they did, I would consider rigging a second exhaust system to install that would be use in passing the test, and just change it out one day out of the year. Has anyone thought of this and if so what was the outcome?
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Originally Posted by Joker
I live in west Texas and have no emissions on my car (LT's and TD'd). They don't test out here for it and if they did, I would consider rigging a second exhaust system to install that would be use in passing the test, and just change it out one day out of the year. Has anyone thought of this and if so what was the outcome?
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I live in Arkansas and they dont test for emissions, so I guess I'm kinda lucky in that area.
If you have to pass emissions in your area but you want the LT/ORY/Catback setup that alot of people have, then get the FLP LT's. You get a set of Off Road Test Pipes, and a set of High Flow Cats......just change to the cats on test day. When you get a ticket (IF YOU DO) for no cats....that should be a "fix it ticket" so you can just change them out, then go to court and prove that you have cats.
On second thought.....for the budget guys. FLP's are kinda pricey.....You could do Pacesetter/ORY/Catback setup.....then buy a 3" catted y pipe......do the same swap out thing.
There's always loopholes.....you just gotta find it
If you have to pass emissions in your area but you want the LT/ORY/Catback setup that alot of people have, then get the FLP LT's. You get a set of Off Road Test Pipes, and a set of High Flow Cats......just change to the cats on test day. When you get a ticket (IF YOU DO) for no cats....that should be a "fix it ticket" so you can just change them out, then go to court and prove that you have cats.
On second thought.....for the budget guys. FLP's are kinda pricey.....You could do Pacesetter/ORY/Catback setup.....then buy a 3" catted y pipe......do the same swap out thing.
There's always loopholes.....you just gotta find it
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You can pass the plug in emissions test by resetting the computer to clear the SES light, then put 100-150 miles on it stop and go city driving, any more and the catalyst system will reload. Down here in Texas your allowed two system not readies and still pass emissions, I just did it, at 100 miles I still had three not readies, 150 miles, only one not ready, the catalyst system, not sure where the cutoff mileage is, but after the catalyst system reboots, your SES light will come back on, and you will fail, so you have a small window of opportunity, but it works, and it will buy you another year, to get a tune....Good luck
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Originally Posted by Z28Venom
I found that the car was almost unbearable without cats. The fumes will make you change your mind in a hurry.
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Originally Posted by Z28Venom
I found that the car was almost unbearable without cats. The fumes will make you change your mind in a hurry.
Mine was horriable too untill I tuned it. It was so bad it would make my eyes water if they wind was blowing towards the cab. It cleared up when I got my A/F ratio straight.